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YES ! Outta da cone ! Once you go outta da cone. No Can go back into da cone!
I like talk li dis wen I iz happy ! Cuz I akamai das Y. YEEEE Hawwww !!!!!!
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I think some are misunderstanding the "cone". For the last three days Hilda's track has remained in the cone that was forecast three days ago. Beyond three days the forecasts become inaccurate because of the complexities in forecasting that far out, and it's only been in the last few days that flights have gone into the storm's eye. You can only get so much data from current satellite data, and when it's hard to pinpoint the actual center of Hilda, it makes things even harder.
As for Mauna Loa or Mauna Kea having an effect on Hilda's track, well really, that's utter codswallop. The storm is tracking further south because it's weakening due to encountering shear and drier air and therefore trade winds are having a greater affect on its track. Funny how some think the mountains deflect hurricanes yet they don't seem to be capable of deflecting trade showers, which hold millions of time less energy than a hurricane.
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Dog's sure happy when he's outta da cone. Makes it a lot easier for him to eat his codswallop!
Sorry, I had to.
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As for Mauna Loa or Mauna Kea having an effect on Hilda's track, well really, that's utter codswallop.
Well then TomK, how can you possibly explain that a hurricane always stays within it's tracking cone, and since both Mauna Loa & Mauna Kea are clearly cone shaped (just look at them), and made of solid rock, a hurricane cannot possibly enter their cones.
Therefore, Mauna Kea & Mauna Loa must have an effect on a hurricane because they keep it outside of their cones, and as stated above a hurricane cannot exist outside of a cone.
It's simple logic and reasoning.
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You have a point! (not one on top of a cone, though, not what I meant) [ ![Wink Wink](http://punaweb.org/forum/images/smilies/wink.png) ]
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For the last three days Hilda's track has remained in the cone that was forecast three days ago
Actually Tommy, having kept the graphics from every advisory for the duration of the Hilda system, I can tell you, without a doubt, you are wrong.
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"Actually Tommy, having kept the graphics from every advisory for the duration of the Hilda system, I can tell you, without a doubt, you are wrong."
All the graphics are available online, you wasted your time. Now, since you're back posting again, please tell everyone how Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa have altered Hilda's track. This new discovery of yours should hardly be withheld from both the scientific community and the public, should it?
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LMAO! Mahalo, all y'all...
Are we kind of "in the clear"? Seem like just rain (lots, perhaps) in some parts? Mahalo ke Akua.
terracore, thank you for the continue posts to keep us advised, and updated. The "coconut thread" is good too, just needs a haupia recipe. Aloha to you.
Car is full of gas, mo'opuna have all they need for a few days, (FYI, Grandson came home from school as said they might not have school on Thursday, but will find out tomorrow. FWIW.)
"Hilda" seems to be going way down South...for now. Nothing like Iwa or Iniki, and not even Iselle. Winds below 30MPH by the time it comes our way, per Guy Hagi on KHNLNews. (Poor guy, lol)
The mauna (all three) on this island have a "mystical sense" of being the driving force to blow off these kinds of "threats" by Mother Nature (as some call "her"). Scientifically, it's been debunked for decades, however historically, the notion does seem to allow for belief. There is a video of Iselle when approaching Hawai'i island that is quite incredible.
Whatever the case may be, let's all be safe and watch one another, especially kupuna and keiki. It is now pouring rain, and I'm going to open my can of condensed milk in preparation for the storm tomorrow (need to test if it's good. [ ![Wink Wink](http://punaweb.org/forum/images/smilies/wink.png) ])
Oh, Mauna Kea apparently had hail last night. Mr. Tom, did you see/hear that?
It's so bloody humid, and there is no hint of wind, the rain is pouring down, and the coqui are silent.
Rest well, everyone, stay "maka'ala".
JMO.
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quote: Originally posted by TomK
"Actually Tommy, having kept the graphics from every advisory for the duration of the Hilda system, I can tell you, without a doubt, you are wrong."
All the graphics are available online, you wasted your time. Now, since you're back posting again, please tell everyone how Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa have altered Hilda's track. This new discovery of yours should hardly be withheld from both the scientific community and the public, should it?
Aloha ahiahi, Mr. Tom, and dakine.
There are some people who believe the planes that are flying into the eye of the storm repeatedly, alter the storm by design, per the "Government". Don't know why my kids insist on telling me what they read, but the thought is along the lines of "chemtrails", etc. Altering storms, creating storms, channeling storms to certain areas?
Well, I'll be. WTH? [:0]
Back to my condensed milk on soft white (buttered) bread. [ ![Smile Smile](http://punaweb.org/forum/images/smilies/smile.png) ] Prefer simple things.
Be well both of you, and stay safe, please.
JMO.
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Hi Opihikao,
"Oh, Mauna Kea apparently had hail last night. Mr. Tom, did you see/hear that?"
No hail reported last night from the observatories at the summit, and we'd most likely have picked up something like that from our ice detector. Maybe it happened at a lower elevation than the summit? That's not unheard of.
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