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HILDA TROPICAL STORM WATCH CANCELLED FOR BI
"There are some people who believe the planes that are flying into the eye of the storm repeatedly, alter the storm by design, per the "Government"."

I will refer you to opihikaobob for that stuff, he's the "expert". I'd prefer not to get involved unless you want to see "codswallop" and a few more of its synonyms in the next day or two!
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I say my good man, codswallop, really? I say. Rather pompous old chap.

Feel free to correct my spelling, grammar, and sentence structure as well.

And all you other coneheads.

Dis ting pau already. Except for the RAIN !
One Thing I can always be sure of is that things will never go as expected.
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Originally posted by TomK

Hi Opihikao,

"Oh, Mauna Kea apparently had hail last night. Mr. Tom, did you see/hear that?"

No hail reported last night from the observatories at the summit, and we'd most likely have picked up something like that from our ice detector. Maybe it happened at a lower elevation than the summit? That's not unheard of.

Yes, Sir. I saw a video of it "near" the Visitor's Center, Sir. [Wink]

Have a lovely evening, and no thanks on that storm creating/channeling/busting up stuff, with due respect to OpihikaoBob. Can't grasp the notion.

(Condensed milk is SO good! Sorry, OT. [:p])

Rest well, all. Be safe.

JMO.

ETA: kimo, LMAO!
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Thanks for the clarification, Opihikao. Hail at the lower elevations on Mauna Kea happens. It's not common, but does occur. Hail at the summit is very rare, but again, can happen it's just even less common.

Spent a little time yesterday evening explaining to a dear friend that Mars won't be appearing near the moon and with the same apparent size as the full moon later this month. It's a hoax that's been going around for over a decade and reappears each summer. The internet is great, but does allow misinformation to spread. It's one reason a good education is so much more important these days. There's so much more to filter out.
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I see some of you are having a hard time on tracking of this storm...

Take it from an expert as to why it's hard to track this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMY3x3nd2y0

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OT, but found this picture from "Private Eye" posted on a friend's blog. It made me laugh. Forget hurricane track models, this is physics graduation.

https://telescoper.files.wordpress.com/2...uation.jpg
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I hadn't heard that one yet! How gullible can people be? A lot.
What about that planet that was going to appear in the sky in 2012? Where are those people now who were claiming that?
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Known as the Little Islands/ Big Wake effect there is scientific fact that our high mountains in Hawaii affect wind patterns in a big way;
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Wake/

We have by a factor of 10 the longest island wake effect (sometimes up to 3,000 kilometers) found on Earth. Since wind cannot go through rock they deflect to go around. This fact guarantees that any storm coming in off the ocean on the Big Island or Maui will be deflected by the huge rocks in a flat ocean.

Another way to think of it is winds do not blow but are more correctly considered to be sucked in by low pressure. The counter clockwise motion of a tropical storm system tells you exactly where you are in relation to the vortex. Trades are winds that are sucked into the almost constant low pressure South of Hawaii from high pressure North of Hawaii.

Easy to see these mountains had a huge effect on Iselle. It was fighting shear on it's way here weakening but still organized on the relatively flat ocean and it appeared to me that it tried to avoid the mountains by diving under the Big Island and then in kinda of a dead spot in the lee of Mauna Loa, the back of the vortex spun in right over Pahala, after skipping over Kapoho. Then up and over the flanks of of Mauna Loa and back out to sea to dissipate completely in less than 200 miles.

It doesn't look like we'll be able to see this wind deflection effect with Hilda as it's winds are too far away. Don't be surprised if the moisture from Hilda gets hung up on the Big Island. Clouds/ showers are also affected by the mountains in a big way. They can't go through mountains either and are deflected around or hung up. Tropical storms are well known for doing this and there are no doubts that the mountains are the cause for the hang up and or deflections.
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2012? That would be Mars and also Nibiru. You don't want to go there. We also don't go there anymore. It's where psycho-UFO analysts sleep and you don't want to wake them up. And don't tell them where we keep the UFOs. It's a secret.
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Thanks, Ino. But I just want to make this clear to wannabe scientist dakine:

It doesn't look like we'll be able to see this wind deflection effect with Hilda as it's winds are too far away. Don't be surprised if the moisture from Hilda gets hung up on the Big Island. Clouds/ showers are also affected by the mountains in a big way. They can't go through mountains either and are deflected around or hung up. Tropical storms are well known for doing this and there are no doubts that the mountains are the cause for the hang up and or deflections."

MKWC have been forecasting moisture on MK through this weekend. We've been planning for that, but have also known for the last couple of days this won't be a wind event. Moisture always hangs around for a bit, but generally the weather right after that is spectacular, especially for astronomy.

Still waiting for dakine's forecast. I doubt we'll see one.

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