homeless cabins on rd 1

[Tink]

Should have stipulation he live on premises to actually guide them and not dump them.

Community begins with Aloha

[kalakoa]

Compare/contrast with the "distributed solar farm" proposed for Ranchos:

http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-ne...state-laws

These kinds of conflicts will keep happening until County/State fix the "faux residential" zoning.

[pahoated]

This is a way for Puna to pay back for all the benefits received from the state and county. Make Puna the mecca for the bum tourists. The ones wandering around in town aren't really like the homeless over in Oahu, not that many families. It's understandable in Oahu, families living on the edge, housing costs go skyrocketing, they are out, not on the edge. It is expected to be a growing problem, especially since Micronesia is starting to experience sea rising and the federal government is offering Hawaii as a place to move. There is very little planning going on, just get people over, then expect the various social programs to take care of everything. It will be like actual, real world problems versus imagined problems. Real world problems get ignored until something breaks or worse, then the mad scramble begins. Air fares are going to start going way down, going to make it a lot easier for freeloading bums to drift over. The first few days, the drugs and wine flow, then the money runs out. Then it will become the search for free money.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"

[justthefacts]

the hilo homeless population is growing, and the downtown hilo business is quickly getting fed up with it . many of these people can work they are newcomers to the island and yes pahoated , the first few days the money is flowing and when it runs out the street is where they wind up . the Micronesians are moving here but many are working or looking for work.
the homeless, freeloading bums park themselves in our parks , street corners anyplace they feel like it some get arrested for trespass violations and some just are a daily burden, either on a corner or in front of a store asking for money it is not a good situation .

[kalakoa]

Make Puna the mecca for the bum tourists.

Sounds great, but I still have to live here, will there be a subsidized relocation program for non-bums to move to Hilo?

[shockwave rider]

justthefacts: "the hilo homeless population is growing, and the downtown hilo business is quickly getting fed up with it . many of these people can work they are newcomers to the island and yes pahoated , the first few days the money is flowing and when it runs out the street is where they wind up ."

This is completely unfactual. I have an office on the Hilo Bay front and start work as early as 5 AM when the homeless are camped in virtually every doorway on the bay front. These are not people from the mainland, the vast majority are local and there are at least 5 or 6 families with young children that I see camped down there regularly. Check out the homeless who occupy the Band shell and shade patches by the bus station 365 days a year, they are not mainland newcomers, some of the same people have been there for years. I think Puna and Kailua Kona both get a certain number of young, broke "travelers" but the Hilo homeless population is homegrown. There is this myth that Hawaii's homeless are flown here, the data statewide doesn't support that, less than 2% of the homeless statewide who request services have been here less than 6 months.

[justthefacts]

well shock the bum group we see in our area is more mainland newbies we are closer to the free food church area . I don't see many families mostly single people or couples. I guess it depends on the area of downtown hilo that you work in my thought is that many people come to Hawaii with the thought it is easier to survive living on the street , good weather, beach . but no matter what is is definitely a growing problem . there are days when it looks like well over 150 people eating at the church.

[pahoated]

You can't tell anything at 5am. Try walking around Kamehameha around 2am after the bars have closed, go down the back alleys, the unlit parking areas. You will see the true demographics, as gaunt bodies crawling up from the river bank and spreading out. From 2am to 5am, it is their world. The word homeless is too general to provide any adequate description of the demographic. The homeless in Oahu are different from the homeless in Hilo, and they are different from the homeless in Kona. Nobody said there were no families among the Hilo homeless but their percentage is small compared to the bums and derelicts. If you go down by the river around 2am, you will also see that there are a lot of white faces. One guy I saw at 2 in the morning was a very pale white guy, dressed only in pajamas, barefoot, pulling a suitcase behind him down the middle of the street, obviously not all there mentally. There have been some recent dudes, old geezers in wheelchairs, they are white, and appearing to use the wheelchairs more as portable seats than being paralyzed. I see them get up and push their chairs to a new location. Even the state acknowledges there is a fair percentage of mainland transplants that got in over their heads and don't have the airfare to go back. As for the Micronesians, they are homeless by circumstance. The state is allowing them to move here due to distress, but don't have a plan for them once they are here.

The point is this is an obvious real world problem and it is growing. It looks like Hilo is aware of this and there have been other rumors about more shifting of the homeless southward. People want to argue over number of flea hairs, fine. That is what Punatics do. Just don't be surprised if there is more news about more of these shelter areas, maybe HPP next.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"

[HawaiiTedd]

Here is some potentially useful information regarding this project that I gleaned from the interweb:

The pastor Craig Kekahuna is on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/craig.kekahuna

He states he is an Evangelism Pastor at "lord jesus international ministry".

He posted on his Facebook home page on July 23 a picture of the plot plan for the "Operation Rescue" development stated to be on TMK 3-1-6-014-078 on Road 1 ('Uhini Ana Road) near Road C (Po'o La Rd.) in Hawaiian Acres, Mountain View with the text:

"Thank you Lord Jesus for the vision you have given my wife and I. operation rescue transitional housing project we are getting ready for God's outpouring of his spiritual blessing that the world has never seen we thank you lord. Kauai here we come in Jesus mighty name."

In his post he refers to outreach on Kauai...so not sure if he is taking this concept to Kauai also, or instead of Big Island. I guess you would have to ask him that. He is also not the owner of the specified TMK, you can find that info online at the county website if you are curious.

Here is a picture album of the plot plan, TMK map and his public post on facebook for those that don't do facebook:
http://imgur.com/a/eGMN9


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[leilaniguy]

There is a large house already on that parcel. Seems like another well intentioned bad idea. There are already 21 cabins sitting empty behind Sacred Heart Church in Pahoa.