Forced vaccinations

[TomK]

It seems these really really successful scientists aren't as open minded as we're led to believe and prefer to remain really really secretive.

[Punatic007]

Seriously guys, I've got 2 types of scientist friends and relatives, the smart ones and the brilliant ones. Not name dropping today Tom, sorry, lol.

No I didn't check out your link, I assumed it was polarized substantiating your stance. I will check it out later.

I'm pro-vaccine even had all my typhoid boosters and I think more unbiased research is in order with HPV. The earth was once flat.

[PaulW]

What do your smart and brilliant scientist friends think about your HPV views and the ludicrous websites you put so much faith in?

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

The earth was once flat.

The earth was never flat.
People made flawed decisions for millennia because they mistakenly thought something that was globular, was flat.

I posted the link below on the Zika thread. Zika virus is not as big a problem as people who believe flawed conspiracy theories about the illness.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comm...zika-virus

"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." -Annie Dillard

[TomK]

"No I didn't check out your link, I assumed it was polarized substantiating your stance. I will check it out later."

Good, because your scientist friends use the techniques outlined in that video. If they exist that is.

[VancouverIslander]

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Originally posted by Punatic007
I'm pro-vaccine even had all my typhoid boosters and I think more unbiased research is in order with HPV. The earth was once flat.

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The article you linked goes back to 2009. Since then a whole lot of research has been done including two european studies with 1 million and 2 million subjects respectively. Conclusion? No neurological effects. I provided a link to one and I suspect you didn't read it either, just filtered it out because it didn't match your bias.

Just call me Mike

[MBB]

Since my question about the validity of the scientific methods used in vaccine studies was not addressed by anyone, I assume that's an unimportant question when looking at all the studies that prove effectiveness and safety.!

Secondly, other than the drug companies who are making vaccines WHO is conducting studies.....FDA, WHO : no. We know that data has never been altered in the past to boost a drug's/product's effectiveness and safety profile......Vioxx, Avantia, talcum powder, cigarette smoke, asbestos etc etc.

Open mindedness works both ways as pointed out in baloney video.....pity presenter didn't take his own advice when he dismissed all things that he wanted to disparage.

[PaulW]

Could you rephrase your question(s), I can't make head or tail of it with all those ellipses. In the meantime: yes, standard scientific methods are used when testing vaccines. What is the problem?

http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content...regulation

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Since my question about the validity of the scientific methods used in vaccine studies

Are you asking about safety studies?
The vaccine is approved by the FDA. It has gone through rigorous and lengthy testing before approval. Was it 100% safe? No, nothing is. Just like a bottle of aspirin or Tylenol you can read a list of side effects for the drug. I'll repeat my previous comment, nothing is 100% safe. A man died a few years ago drinking too much water during a radio station promotional stunt.

Did you read about the "safe" herbal drugs sold by five large retailers which were recently tested and found to contain none of the herbs listed on the bottles? Check your news feed over this past weekend.

The HPV vaccine may not be 100% safe, but it is extremely effective:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/22/health....html?_r=0

"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." -Annie Dillard

[VancouverIslander]

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Originally posted by MBB

Since my question about the validity of the scientific methods used in vaccine studies was not addressed by anyone, I assume that's an unimportant question when looking at all the studies that prove effectiveness and safety.!

Secondly, other than the drug companies who are making vaccines WHO is conducting studies.....FDA, WHO : no. We know that data has never been altered in the past to boost a drug's/product's effectiveness and safety profile......Vioxx, Avantia, talcum powder, cigarette smoke, asbestos etc etc.

Open mindedness works both ways as pointed out in baloney video.....pity presenter didn't take his own advice when he dismissed all things that he wanted to disparage.

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Here's an idea for you. Myself and many others have posted links to abstracts and papers on the topic. The methods are in the papers. If you want, you can check out the methods used and get back to us on that. Thing is, peer reviewed science tends to catch out the cheaters since it's published for all to see.

Just call me Mike