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There is absolutely no way that projected population growth in Puna can be serviced exclusively by cesspools. There is no way any government can afford to run hundreds of miles of sewer pipe through solid rock for centralized water treatment.
Exactly: it would be cheaper for government to buy up all the vacant lots so that population density never exceeds a level which can be serviced by cesspools.
If "local food production" were as important as they (sometimes) claim, these vacant lots could be leased out for farming...
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Baker's Yeast has been used for years to speed digestion in septic systems. I would assume it would work the same in Cesspools.
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In most cases a new septic system must be preapproved, part of that process is a percolation test which I think most of the lava beds would have a real problem passing, so this would really requier some special engineering to accomplish.
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Lots of misinformation and speculation here over what is considered settled science. Lava rock is very porous thus no need for perc tests here. Septic systems release much less harmful bacteria and solid toxins into the aquifer and ultimately the ocean. On the mainland where aquifers are deep and capped with things like clay or sandstone, water may take millennia to reach the aquifers. Here, in many places I would be surprised if it took weeks. Regardless, septic systems are safer for the environment long term than cesspools. As the population inevitably grows, the overall impact on the environment must be lessened. I am glad to see this has finally passed.
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Originally posted by kalakoa
There is absolutely no way that projected population growth in Puna can be serviced exclusively by cesspools. There is no way any government can afford to run hundreds of miles of sewer pipe through solid rock for centralized water treatment.
Exactly: it would be cheaper for government to buy up all the vacant lots so that population density never exceeds a level which can be serviced by cesspools.
If "local food production" were as important as they (sometimes) claim, these vacant lots could be leased out for farming...
this is a good idea
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hotinhawaii is correct - septic systems holding tanks act as a fermentation system to help break down organic materials.
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It's quite surprising when you do a google shopping search
earchhttps://www.google.com/search?output=search&tbm=shop&q=polyethylene+Septic+tanks+&oq=polyethylene+Septic+tanks+&gs_l=products-cc.12...3335.3335.0.5123.1.1.0.0.0.0.61.61.1.1.0....0...1ac..64.products-cc..0.0.0.EeHrxUV2A3c#q=polyethylene+Septic+tanks+1000&tbs=vw:l,p_ord:p&tbm=shop
And the lowest price for an identical 1000 gallon item is $838.00
I can understand shipping on an 300lb item but whoa.....
Someone is clearly cleaning up!
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Originally posted by sactokim
Found a 2009 discussion on Punaweb, post by Menehune:
http://punaweb.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8217
Engineer: $500 to $600 - you normally pay this separate from the installation
Tanks:$2200 to $2500 - this is normally included in the installation est./cost.
http://www.chemtainerofhawaii.com/produc...spx?cid=31
Normal installation estimates are $5,000 to $7000. PLUS engineers cost.
Total - $5,500 to $7,600 or whatever you can NEGOTIATE!
You MUST have an engineer design the septic system - called "Individual Wastewater System". Our engineer submitted all the paperwork to the County. Cost $500 - $600.
The two most common sizes are 1,000 and 1,250 gallon tanks made here in Hawaii by Chem-tainer. 1,000 for 2 to 3 bedrooms and 1,250 for 4 to 5 bedrooms.
http://www.chemtainerofhawaii.com/
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I can understand shipping on an 300lb item but whoa.....
When an item is bulky, shippers charge what they call "dimensional weight" or "dim- weight." An empty tank would fall into that category. Each shipping company has a dim-weight to actual weight calculation that they use to determine the charge billed to the customer. They then bill for the higher of weight transported or space taken in the cargo hold.
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Point taken, I'll put one in the shipping container I send over with all my "stuff" and fill it with clothes
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There are spots on my property where I can leave the hose running and the water just drains straight down without even forming a puddle. Is there even a requirement for a perc test here?
