How to use a roundabout

[Kapoho Joe]

Considering that the Hawaiian drivers license test does not cover roundabouts, are any roundabout related tickets that police issue valid?

[kalakoa]

Liberalism thrives on the double standard.

Especially in a forum post.

[shockwave rider]

Timkona:

I am trying to figure out how all the whining and vetching on this thread and at meetings about what a bad idea the roundabouts are leads you to conclude that "Nearly everybody in Puna thinks its a good idea."

Leaping to partisan insults like "Liberalism thrives on the double standard." when talking about a topic that for most of us is a nonpartisan issue shows a real lack of critical thinking skills. Are you saying roundabouts are a liberal conspiracy, or is it merging, to the left that you object to?

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

or is it merging, to the left that you object to?

It's insidious, isn't it shockwave rider?

Oscar Wilde's Last Words: "Either this wallpaper goes, or I do."

[pahoated]

It's just more Ha-Ha-Ha-Hawaii. It is such a laugh to go through there, especially the sudden addition of a big pullout lane to the village market, which should have been put in years ago, which would have decreased contention for the T-bone intersection. The good thing is finally realizing a pull out lane to the market area will reduce people going through towards Kalapana direction. Compared to the construction, the roundabout is a breeze for the most part. It's the zany layout now, along with 5 signs where there used to be one and it looks like more and more signs are being added every day. Coming in from Hilo, it looks like a sign forest, especially with the poles in the center. It is impressive what South Punatic malahini armchair civil engineers can come up with.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

It is impressive what South Punatic malahini armchair civil engineers can come up with.

Hey, we've got the only interstellar spaceport in the islands. The rest is easy.

Oscar Wilde's Last Words: "Either this wallpaper goes, or I do."

[TomK]

Those who think roundabouts were created by utopian idealists need look no further than my beloved home town, the center of roundabout research for the whole world, Bracknell.

http://www.trousers.co.uk/bracknell/about.html

[Royall]

I came through the roundy about 3:00 yesterday heading to the hardware store. I observed the fire truck with lights and siren going trying to get through. There was about 6 cars in front of him but the guy at the yield sign would not move! Just sat there for what seemed like 15-20 seconds trying to decide what the F... to do.

[bystander]

It seems to me that the roundabout has made Pahoa bound traffic worse. I don't remember it backing up like it does now on the highway. I guess this is the tradeoff, safer but slower. Maybe a light would have been better?

[pahoated]

It is getting strange with the number of emergency ambulances heading into Puna or out of Puna. I only go into town every other day usually, generally in the afternoon, and it is getting to be I see an ambulance or fire truck with lights and sirens going, heading into or out of Puna, every time or sometimes going in and back out of town. I have seen so many now that I notice they aren't heading out of Hilo to go north, or going on to Volcano, they are all going into Puna.

There are a lot of very old people in Puna, the hippies from the 70's are now sour old codgers. A lot of them are dying, became aware of about 3 elderly deaths in a 6 block area over the past few months, know about other neighbors in multiple stages of distress. That would account for the higher frequency of emergency vehicles but there must be a lot more happening to account for all these ambulances, fire trucks, police cars. Accidents, drugs, domestics, crime, and none of it gets reported.

The statistics show that if some life threatening condition happens, a 5 minute response results in much higher survival. Now imagine being in Kalapana, you have a stab wound, you are bleeding out, you probably only have 10 minutes, you have enough strength to make a cell phone 911. An ambulance is immediately dispatched from Hilo. The only problem is that it is 5 pm and the ambulance gets caught in the Kea'au merge. After getting past that, 50% of the people on Hwy 130 heading to Pahoa are unaware there is an ambulance behind them. After getting through that, the ambulance comes up to the Pahoa roundabout and there has been a minor fender bender, totally blocking the entire spaghetti intersection. After the 2 hours it takes to clear that out, the ambulance is on its way to Kalapana. At least they find your body and give it a ride back to Hilo with just flashing lights. Your body has an uplifting community message T-shirt "Aloha is Alive in Puna!".

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"