EBT dollars at work

[lavalava]

i live on lava genius ~ my rainwater goes down and stays down. No rivers, no soil, no nutrients. but please keep telling me how things are over here.

[AlohaDave]

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Originally posted by lavalava

i live on lava genius ~ my rainwater goes down and stays down. No rivers, no soil, no nutrients. but please keep telling me how things are over here.

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I get it, the native Hawaiians were able to farm the land and live successfully, but certain current residents benefit economically from the present system and would rather have cans of spam dropped from planes and brought in by boat.

The whole island is formed from lava and soil only covers certain portions. we all get it....

[shockwave rider]

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Originally posted by AlohaDave

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Originally posted by dakine

And, because of the terrain, in many cases being relatively steep, and the rainfall, all them nutrients get washed out of the soil faster than some flat piece of land in the Central Valley of Cali..

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Can I assume this is humor?
In SA the Mayan's carved steps into actual mountainsides to form areas that would receive more irrigation

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They also were not growing food as a commodity crop, they grew enough for their village and to cover their tribute to the king. No transportation or distribution systems were involved. If a crop was poor because of weather the village went hungry, but the king still got paid. You are comparing apples and oranges here.

[kalakoa]

Your explanation of Coffee still does not fit, if it can be produced much cheaper in South America.

Commodity anything can be produced cheaper anywhere but here. Kona coffee is a high-value niche, not grown in SA.

In Sa they have hundreds of thousands of acres to grow pineapple and Banana.
But is that a reason not to grow it in Hawaii?

Pineapple and banana are still grown in Hawaii. Perhaps Mr Ha could explain what happens to local produce, since he recently shut down his banana farm.

The profit margins for farming have always been low for the small-med sized farm and it's hard work. No sitting on your cushy couch pressing buttons.

All of these are true, and all are equally irrelevant. Modern economics is based on everyone performing the highest-value labor; if this means people in Hawaii don't farm because it's cheaper to import food, then that's a natural side effect of the system we have.

And how does that relate to food security? It makes us less secure.

No argument here... but so long as we take our "peacetime" economy for granted, none of these problems will be addressed, especially since Big Government can always just bail us out of our poor decisions. Isn't that why we pay taxes?

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Top 10 fruit & vegetable imports into Hawaii January - March 2016:

https://hdoa.hawaii.gov/add/files/2016/0...-Flier.pdf

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