Discoveries using the telescopes on Mauna Kea

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I can't think of anyone on God's green earth who would be even the slightest bit interested in being sent my posts from PunaWeb I'm not that interesting!

Hope everyone is doing well.

Hugs,
Pam

Pam in CA

[Guest]

The TMT project is in a race with several other large telescopes to take the first pictures of space "again". Being first to "SEE" and collect "DATA" matters more to the astronomers than allowing the Native Hawaiians the needed time to gain their recognition, or have the chance to regain control of their own land again. Being first matters more to these astronomers than many of Our island people's traditions, Cultures, concerns, Resources, and Spirit. Jmo

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2011...obin-mckie

The TMT's project's priorities and intentions have been clear from the beginning, They have proven to be very willing and capable of doing Anything to achieve first light in this Centuries largest telescope race.

It really makes me wonder why The building of the large TMT project and not the decommissioning of the other outdated telescopes atop Mauna Kea remains the top priority for the state or University.
Would The summit of Mauna Kea remain the astronomy capital of the world with or without this TMT observatory?
Would the Keck telescope atop Mauna Kea remain one of the largest telescopes in the world whether the TMT is built next to it or not?

[Guest]

Apologies, I deleted my reply because i was being too much like them.
peace

[TomK]

Not a discovery as such, but a beautiful picture of of Mauna Kea's sunrise shadow with Hualalai and Mauna Kea's western slopes in the foreground. It's been entered into the annual Insight Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2016 contest. The picture is about two-thirds down this page:

http://sa.news-switcher.newslabs.co:8001...s-36907268

[Guest]

brilliant assertion gypsy69. sleep well

[PaulW]

Always amusing to see the anti-science crowd busily typing on their phones and posting to the internet.

The rate of discoveries seems to be increasing, I can only imagine where we'll be 10 years from now. The chance of planets with the potential to support life is increasing all the time. Exciting days. Along with, of course, the increase of our knowledge about the workings of the Universe. Dark matter is fascinating just by itself.

Keep up the great work, Maune Kea astronomers, and all scientists. Humanity owes you a lot.

[kalakoa]

I can only imagine where we'll be 10 years from now

Here on Earth, arguing about "property rights".

If we spent half the time and money that goes into pointless lawsuits ("rectangular with rounded corners", etc) on actual R&D, we'd probably have a moon base and/or people on Mars by now.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

If we spent half the time and money that goes into pointless lawsuits... we'd probably have a moon base and/or people on Mars by now

If only there was a way we could send our lawyers to a moon base, or Mars. For the betterment of all man&womankind.

Win win.

The moon kind of surprises me sometimes. I’ll be out at night and I’ll see a nice moon, and say, “Hey, that looks good.” Then I’ll say, “Oh sh-t, I went up there one time!” Kind of surprises me. It’s like there are two Moons, you know—the one that’s usually around, and then that one. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut

[TomK]

"All the emotionalism is over TMT but most of the existing observatories on Mauna Kea are doing just fine. There is a new era of instrumentation upgrades and motion control systems that are going to make them more powerful and more productive."

Just the other day you wrote:

"These are the last days of large ground based optical telescopes."

How are your two comments consistent?

"Astronomy is almost totally financed by government handouts, the US and the rest, from taxes. Funding is very, very competitive and ultimately rests on how productive an observatory is. In the past, that meant publishing. Today, it is the number of F**book likes, almost. To do that, the observatories have turned to marketing for funding."

The observatories haven't turned to marketing. Those that use FB do it to help publicize their work. The number of likes does not influence the funding of an observatory and never has. Scientific productivity is still based on the number of research papers published using data from an observatory.

"This one you don't hear from because it is NASA funded. This is a fantastic discovery and Juno's first close up soon will have image resolution with fidelity only dreamed of by astronomers. And, We The People, who are funding these missions are making the data instantly accessible to the entire planet for no cost (other than knowing what to do with it). This is what a totally corrupt government does?"

The IRTF is not the only NASA-funded observatory on Mauna Kea and if you had bothered to read the thread this result was mentioned earlier. Quite why you think people might not hear about science results because of NASA funding is beyond me. The fact that you repeated the news and posted a link about it shows that people do hear about it.

Incidentally, data from Juno will be proprietary for a period of time. That's very typical so that the people who designed and spent much of their on a project get the first chance to use the data before it becomes public.

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Both comments place an unworthy burden on the phrase "being consistent".

Explain why Tom ?


Maybe try answer one before asking another ?