09-20-2016, 04:50 AM
Sure let's see the books. Oh wait it has been 18 months since anyone of the community has. My guess is that they still are not cooked well enough yet. The truth will set you free or put you in prison.
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09-20-2016, 08:01 AM
So, your PROOF that money is being stolen is that you HAVEN'T seen the books, and you are GUESSING that they are being cooked.
According to the court website, the financial records from the 3 banks have been subpoenaed by BOTH sides. So the truth will come out eventually. Again, I have no love for either dog in this fight, but statements like these certainly don't make me want to jump onto YOUR bandwagon. On the other hand, these statements are so ridiculous that they could have been posted by the defendant group to make the plaintiffs look like idiots. I'm going to throw it all out the window and wait for something real to emerge.
09-20-2016, 08:22 AM
quote: According to Hawaii law 414D, I believe, all finical records are supposed to publicly available. Since they haven't be available, nor will they show them to anyone has to make you wonder.....we may never know but why hide anything if you are not?
09-20-2016, 08:54 AM
Perhaps you should have started with a discussion about the financial records instead of adamant accusations of theft, which at this point you cannot prove. Hiding the books is one thing, but if the books end up showing that there was no theft, then you could be opening yourself up to a slander/defamation suit.
The truth will come out eventually. Please try to wait for it.
09-20-2016, 11:12 AM
quote: You mean this section of the statute: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent...D-0302.htm If this is the case, has any member applied in writing and allowed up to 5 days for a response to see the accounting records? If so and they have been denied, that is a problem. Me ka ha`aha`a, Mike
Me ka ha`aha`a,
Mike
09-20-2016, 11:15 AM
quote: Perhaps that would have been a more prudent course, but now that it's been brought up perhaps it's worth addressing. The board is required by law to provide reasonable access to accounting records within five days of a written request of a member as required by the statute I linked in my previous post in this thread. If someone has sent in a written request and not been allowed reasonable access, that is a problem. Me ka ha`aha`a, Mike
Me ka ha`aha`a,
Mike
09-20-2016, 12:31 PM
Well I guess I should give that a try as nothing has worked. Tegen Greene refused when asked by several community members and became quite angry and stormed out of the meeting. It seems to have become a kingdom, IMHO.
09-20-2016, 12:42 PM
It seems to have become a kingdom
As such, it poses no threat to County's road BS. The system works! (Just not for you, so much.)
09-20-2016, 12:46 PM
So long as the matter is "in the courts" neither side should be allowed to collect or spend any money. The yearly fees should be going into an escrow account, and if there is an "emergency" situation that requires a road repair or maintenance then it should be decided by a neutral third party who is capable of hiring licensed contractors and maintaining (and making available) financial records. Oh wait... isn't that pretty much the definition of a receivership?
09-20-2016, 03:14 PM
If everyone owned just the stretch of road in front of their property, this would be so much easier. No pointing fingers, no potential for corruption, just individual responsibility.
Membership road corporations seem to be a poor fit too, too many bat**** insane people picking at every little thing. Just have individual responsibility, and one or more voluntary co-ops you can join if you want to hui or pay others to deal with ît. |
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