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how about conservation.... ??? instead of spreading nonnative introduced rubbish all over these special islands.. Ruderman should know better... but it doesnt surprise me at all.... he is all about being pop w/ pseudoHawaii loving hippies most times... and we all know they are the LAST people to push conservation in Hawaii.. they are much of the prob in reality,, especially in Puna...
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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No one has mentioned hyperinflation. Coupled with HI's and PR's associated shipping costs on every import,(re: the Jones Act) $15 per hour isn't enough to buy weed and vinyl anymore, a kid would have to choose. Many low skill employers won't hire overly qualified people for minimum wage because they are out the door the minute something better comes along.The MW should have been raised years ago.
That being said, when the recession hit suddenly every "Dot Commer" became a handy man so that market was glutted with self managed, "overly qualified", unskilled labor who drove wages down for skilled workers and insurance prices up for everyone. Pre Nafta, construction workers made an average $40 per hour, post, $20 or less because of the same dispersion principle mentioned earlier. Trade deals do not help our economy. Outsourcing food production is part of the greater problem. It's all a shell game and we are the pieces. Raising the minimum wage will benefit a select few for a while until hyper inflation goes richter, which it will. Minimum wage must follow expense flow or educated people end up in homeless shelters because unlike the poor, they have not one clue of how to survive without money.
Every economist worth his salt knows if the US doesn't go agrarian (commercial and personal), we will sink. We must support ourselves with food and energy production. Period. It's economy of motion. Democrat, republican, we don't have a choice.
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"And over 3 times as much as an E1 in the Army."
Military personnel are paid for 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. They are paid whether they are working, sleeping, on leave, taking the weekend off, or taking a crap. Not a fair comparison.
"22.00 an hour you mean people at Mcdonalds will be making more than the school teachers?"
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"$22 / hour for farm labor will make farm laborers more highly paid than degreed computer engineers on the Big Island."
Apparently school teachers and computer engineers will be exempt from the minimum wage law?
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Teachers making the same as mcdonalds workers then.
.. doesn't sound any better.
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Teachers making the same as mcdonalds workers then.
If/when minimum wage is $22 an hour, a teacher will make $100 an hour. A hamburger will cost $10 or $15 each so McDonald's can pay their workers minimum wage. Taxes will double or triple so the state can pay teachers their new comparable wage, affording educators the luxury of taking their family out for $15 burgers once a week.
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Teachers in Hawaii already make well over $22hr., however, I suspect that the unions will immediately demand an increase to match the percentage of the minimum wage increase.
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OK, it seems obvious that if the minimum wage goes up, then other wages, prices, and taxes will also increase accordingly. What about the reverse? What if the minimum wage was lowered? Would other wages, prices, and taxes also go down?
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if the minimum wage goes up, then other wages, prices, and taxes will also increase
This is exactly what's happening in California right now: all prices have been raised to cover the higher minimum wage that went into effect January 1.
What if the minimum wage was lowered? Would other wages, prices, and taxes also go down?
When gas prices were high, companies added a "fuel surcharge".
Gas prices eventually went back down, but the "fuel surcharge" remains.
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Not wanting to mention the obvious, but the real reason "progressives" want to raise the minimum wage is that all employment taxes are based on a percentage of the wages paid. Wages go up, so do taxes, including the amount of SS taxes your employer pays on your behalf.
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People don't like to look at it as a tax grab. But that's exactly what it is. So what if you make 22.00 an hour.. your just going to pay triple of what, you are paying now for goods and services... that doesn't really benefit the common man/woman. But the state and federal government surely will thank you.. while they laugh at you behind your back.
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