Originally posted by kalakoa
Two amusing items:
1. Chip seal is apparently a kind of
maintenance for
existing paved roads.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipseal
Chipseal (also chip seal) is a pavement surface treatment that combines one or more layer(s) of asphalt with one or more layer(s) of fine aggregate.
2. "Board has its own agenda" is apparently a common problem, even in wealthier communities:
http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/opinion/l...tor-3-1-17
It would appear that our board has decided that they would prefer to make up your minds for you.
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Mahalo kalakoa. You are absolutely correct. Please people, read the link that kalakoa has provided on CS. I posted many moons ago on HPP threads that the end result is only as good as the foundation. Others have chimed in...it's only logical, right? But for some reason, not to our board.
I along w/other members tried our best in early 2015 to convey to the board that this material is not suitable for HPP roads. I don't wish to sound like a broken record, but the board at the time w/remnants on this board, and now newbies w/NO history, are continuing the CS agenda no matter what the members have to say, no matter that the CS roads are falling apart, and no matter that OUR $$$ is being flushed down the toilet.
A previous board already looked into CS and the engineer involved stated it was unsuitable for HPP. These reps already know this but have dismissed it. They have no engineer involved in the CS work, they are lacking proper permits, and the contractor has no license. Is it ok with you that our board is conducting business in this reckless and unprofessional manner?
One layer of CS is going right on top of roads w/no substantial road material and is being laid thin. I heard the GM state at a FC mtg in 2015 that the plan was to lay the emulsion right on top of the roads. There was no need to drop any material down prior to CS'g. I along w/a few others raised our hands and said we have no road material on our roads. We got the deer in headlights look and that was that. The GM and board have been deflecting the CS issues since they CS'd the dead end training roads 32nd/33rd. It's always drivers' faults... malicious and careless drivers. Next they talk about installing cameras to catch these people and charge them. It's all so ridiculous. I've heard this at many mtgs and it will continue as long as people believe them.
Not enough members are coming forward to object and that's why they're continuing to flush our $$$$ down the toilet. And as long as they continue to CS, so will the deterioration of our roads and easements, plain and simple. They want to CS every dirt road in HPP.
Think about it. I think they've completed 4-5 roads now. Look at the state of our other roads, no road material, prevalent potholes throughout HPP, no striping and reflectors, overgrown easements. They have a long way to go to CS the remainder of our dirt roads. Before they're even done, the other CS roads will be failing along w/the dirt roads. ..Is that ok w/you? NO light at the end of the tunnel, some of us will continue feeding the black CS hole, look the other way as our roads continue to deteriorate until this reckless runaway train of a board is stopped. Some don't care as long as once in a blue moon, the crew shows up to cut the overgrown easements and grade the powdered roads.
A good professionally laid dirt road w/a professional bondable mix of rock and fines is money better spent until we get asphalt. And guess what! That's their job! How much $$$ will it cost to remove the failing CS? Who's going to pay for it??? I think it's a very hefty price for US to pay so the board can fulfill
their agenda. IT'S OUR CHOICE, NOT THEIRS. THEY REPRESENT US AND IT'S OUR MONEY.
