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You know after our Cash N Carry incident, I was all up in arms so to speak, but HotCatz does have it right... My SO gets to know all the neighbors around his projects and gives out his cell # to them. He says his best protection is the little old people walking dogs. He has got a call a couple of times, and although he isnt positive, he thinks the criminals to be realized they were being watched when my SO pulled up a few minutes after being called and said "Hi, looking for something?" In Hi Acres, I do remember when you knew just about every car, and people wrote down unfamilar license #'s. What it really takes is us all being aware and caring, and feeling ok about calling our neighbors to stay hey someone strange pulled in your driveway. Do you know your neighbors? How many houses away? Lets not make this Hell-Lay where we pull in our garages and shut the door.
I participated with Roberta in Hi Acres when 7 Rd in the Acres was kept getting robbed. We all had a potluck on the corner of 7 & E and waved at the passing cars. Most people stopped and chatted as they went by, we met some newbies, we saw some old friends. Hopefully a couple of theives went by and saw our coalition and headed out of town.
One more thing ! Have all your tools ingraved or marked with a name and/or phone #. The pawn shop had some of our nails guns that were stolen from one guys car, and although we had the theifs name and the guns were pawned by him, all we could say was "yellow mikata" or whatever it was. The owner said i have 5 of those here. Can you identify it specifically????
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I didn't really want to get into this subject because I probably have been "hit" many more times than any of you guys, even though I took as much precaution as I could at every place. I have been building spec homes in HPP and Leilani Estates for six years. I have had theft at almost every building site. My new water pump was nicely "de-installed" once; lumber was stolen from several sites; screens were stolen from another site; tools were stolen from one site; and to top it off, my plants were dug out and stolen from roadside, right on the busiest street in the subdivision! That really was the last straw and I decided not build anymore. I love this country and the freedom that comes with it, but I sometimes wish we were like some of those Middle Eastern countries where they just chop off your hand if you steal!
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No, you don't. A freind of mine saw that as a child in Saudi and is to this day haunted by the spectacle. I've heard that after having that done one is marked for life, much like a scarlet letter, and obtaining decent job offers is all but impossible. pj
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Whoa! Why the heck they gotta chop s**t off in those countries? Heads lopped off...hands lopped off...women castrated. I'm sure grateful to be American. Guess I'm feelin' a little patriotic since Memorial Day and all. I was reading story about some local Arizona Marines, etc. that gave their lives during this most recent military crap. They were ALL just babies. Can you imagine being in a place where bombs just explode in the streets and people are kidnapped because of their nationality and their heads are lopped...
OKAY - I'LL GET OFF MY SOAPBOX NOW. I FEEL A LITTLE BETTER.
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okay, ladies. now exhale. there is a difference between wanting to chop someone's hands off and actually doing it. In my frustation, I have thought the same things as John. But in my mind, I sat on the porch with a shotgun. So I guess that's a little less middle east stereotyping and a little more texas stereotyping. But it is super frustrating. And it kind of makes me want to quit too. That and the fact that I don't want to be one of those people that is contributing to the bulldozing of the subdivisions. My next plans involve more renovating, less new construction. Though that would involve thieves too. It just feels like if the police aren't going to do their jobs, individuals are going to take the law into their own hands. We do have to right to protect ourselves and our livelihoods. I don't care what sob story the thieves have. Ultimately they should be held responsible for their actions. I'm not really talking about shooting them on site. But I believe that something beyond deterrence needs to happen. I don't want them just to skip my house. I want them to learn that stealing isn't worth it. Now if they are making thousands of dollars doing this, then the punishment needs to severe enough for it not to be worth it to them. And who who has had anything stolen truly believes that our current system is doing that??? Just having ohana (I mean that in the loosest way) in the PD, gets you off the hook. So what are we supposed to do? Electric shock fencing? barb wire? Maybe we need to start a gang to set traps at particular houses, catch those ^$%%%^%&, give them to the police, and tell the cops that we'll be watching what happens to them! Or something.
grrrrr
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I think John was speaking figuratively. However in the mid east, it is a deterrent and although not our custom and seemingly barbaric, that is how it is, and everyone there knows it! Hopefully if there is ever peace, law and order there, these customs will be replaced.
But I have to agree, theft is an assault on a persons sense of security, be it a bucket from the yard or something from your house. Yes the value is important of what ever is taken, but far more damaging is the sense of security lost that one feels at being ripped off. Having someone unknown to you invade your home where you feel safe is not forgiveable. That feeling of being violated does not wash out like sand from your hair. It diminishes, but upon a second or third affront it is damaging to the psyche.
Enforcement of existing laws is a MUST. Protecting each other, knowing your neighbors and looking out for your neighborhood needs to be a daily effort.
Politicians local and state need to be brought into the discussion and held accountable. You want my vote you address my concerns not all the bla bla bla
that is so old and tired.
Statistics need to be collected and posted in the newspapers, so people can make educated assessments of the job our civil servants are preforming on our behalf, or not performing. If they aren't doing the job we request then get someone who will.
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And gee to answer myself! I just read the last post of mine and it sounds real law and order and I'm the live and let live type but I just couldn't help it sorry! It is not fun to get robbed.
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Knowing your hand can be chopped off if you steal would make you think about stealing twice. I just read it in an expat newspaper yesterday that someone was sent to prison for two years for stealing an apple from a street vendor in Malaysia!
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Now I am one of the last people who likes to see violence of any kind against people or animals. But I agree wholeheartedly with John. It's because there are too many people in the world now who do not believe in real consequences that we are all forced to live this way. Personally, if anyone was to break into my home, they would be shot. I would have no qualms about it. The perpetrator's intention might be not only to rob my home but to attack my family. And since most thieves are drug addicts, you can never be sure what their real intentions are or what they may or may not do. Luckily in Florida, you are legally allowed to shot anyone who breaks into your home. And no jury in my town would ever convict anyone of protecting their property. If this is not the law in Hawaii, then we may have to give up our dream of living there one day and sell our lot. All people should be allowed to protect their homes and families, with any means available.
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Now I am one of the last people who likes to see violence of any kind against people or animals. But I agree wholeheartedly with John. It's because there are too many people in the world now who do not believe in real consequences that we are all forced to live this way. Personally, if anyone was to break into my home, they would be shot. I would have no qualms about it. The perpetrator's intention might be not only to rob my home but to attack my family. And since most thieves are drug addicts, you can never be sure what their real intentions are or what they may or may not do. Luckily in Florida, you are legally allowed to shot anyone who breaks into your home. And no jury in my town would ever convict anyone of protecting their property. If this is not the law in Hawaii, then we may have to give up our dream of living there one day and sell our lot. All people should be allowed to protect their homes and families, with any means available.
Stay where you live we don't need any more violence.
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