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Island Coffee farms looked at by ICE officials.
No arguing with this guy, he says statisticians are "dishonest" and that "PC pressure" causes organizations to change their policies.

This is the most culturally and ethnically diverse state in the Union, how can you stand it here?
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Originally posted by MarkP

Constructive criticism here: Do you mean "ancestral" and "stake"?

Otherwise I heartily agree with your point.

stake yes, I meant stake.
I guess I'm craving a steak plate from the local food truck.

But I did mean incestual.
Truth is, go far enough back in someone's family tree and they will find it there.
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Allowing in legal immigrants compared to setting someone on fire, don't quite see the connection.
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I didn't mean for it to seem that way, and honestly had no idea that you would perceive it as such.
But I do see that you are very emotionally tied to this discussion. Please don't let that cloud your judgement.
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This is the most culturally and ethnically diverse state in the Union, how can you stand it here?
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You keep trying to blur the issue. I do not believe anyone here is against legal immigration. It isn't any fear of someone being different.

The illegals tend to use fraudulent methods to stay here as in fake ID's, fake drivers licenses with fake insurance ID cards, etc. Identity theft is a part of the illegal game.
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The same can be said for legal residents, who live here and use fake Id's, stollen safety checks, fake Insurance cards. Thiis is not exclusive to illegal immigrants.
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"But I do see that you are very emotionally tied to this discussion"
You're the one comparing the legal entry of immigrants, which made this country and state what it is, to slavery and murder.
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" I do not believe anyone here is against legal immigration"

Please meet MarkD and his friends. He says legal immigration is bad and should be stopped. Even though he himself has benefited from it, just like everyone else in Hawaii and the US. Shut the gate behind you.
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legal residents, who live here and use fake Id's, stollen safety checks, fake Insurance cards.

Even fake license plates.
Some have phony chicken farms for breeding purposes only (nudge nudge wink wink), and oceanfront Ag exemptions on invisible farms which seem to be suppliers for the booming hala, ironwood, and naupaka industry. Instead of coffee, an actual agricultural commodity.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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Every time I get a new Safety Sticker at Cal's, they slice it with a box knife so it doesn't come off in one piece. ( to prevent theft)
I don't think anybody can blame that particular problem on immigrants, illegal or otherwise
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