Posts: 2,151
Threads: 73
Joined: Mar 2007
"How high would our taxes need to be in order to get the level of protection people demand?"
Not necessarily any higher at all if the inefficient and hobbling union and county imposed "work rules" for cops were reformed. I've gone on about this ad nauseum, but talk to some energetic, enthusiastic Hawaii County police officers (yes, there are some), and they will tell you that they could do more with the resources they already have. Having said that, Puna still does not get its fair share of personnel, especially detectives.
Posts: 14,116
Threads: 424
Joined: Aug 2012
Puna still does not get its fair share of
...anything.
Posts: 907
Threads: 12
Joined: Apr 2012
sounds like somebody should call the whambulance, or what, puna no can afford those either?
Posts: 11,028
Threads: 751
Joined: Sep 2012
the burden should not lie with the police
A driver entering Paradise Dr from a side street yesterday ran the stop sign & cut me off. Next time I'll follow in a high speed pursuit and when I catch him somewhere (not at a stop sign, he doesn't pause there) I'll write a ticket on the back of an old Long's Drug Store receipt. It's a small way I might be able to assist the police in the future with their burden.
It should be no more dangerous to my person or the community at large than to enter the private, secluded lair of a group of criminal thieves in order to retrieve some property they've stolen from me. Maybe if I ask nice.
I'll keep my eyes peeled, for I'm sure there are other ways where citizen responsibility in action might help our over burdened police force.
Moonless, this June night is all the more alive with stars. It's darkness is perfumed with faint gusts from the blossoming lime trees, with the smell of wetted earth and the invisible greenness of the vines. -Music At Night, Aldous Huxley
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
Posts: 907
Threads: 12
Joined: Apr 2012
it's a complete pain to deal with criminals. always has been. hollywood has made billions off of this simple fact - drama, entertainment, suspense. it's well known and documented.
hawaii is a remote place, with not enough resources, and very strict gun laws. it's well known and documented.
one can be a victim, or one can acknowledge the situation and adjust accordingly.
various options -
1. move (you have 49 other states to choose from, and hundreds of countries)
2. don't leave your house
3. be a victim
4. try to setup a secure environment, be a responsible land owner and neighbor, and work constructively with your police department
Posts: 3,203
Threads: 108
Joined: Jun 2010
Bluesboy, it's the "work constructively with the police department" part that is not working. If you do everything but kick in the door for the police, and they still can't solve the crime, they are not helping.
Posts: 7,734
Threads: 686
Joined: Jun 2011
There was a post on Big Island Thieves FB group today about a person with a warrant for their arrest attempting to turn themselves into the Pahoa station and being asked to come back later.
Posts: 1,674
Threads: 81
Joined: Aug 2014
Sounds like the neighbors were in on it. If power tools were used to break in and take some of the items, how could they not hear or notice? With the amount of items listed it must have been a multiple trip project or some really big trucks with trailers to take the riding mower and all.
Kalakoa is right though. As sick as it sounds you can't expect things not to disappear when unattended that long.
How expensive is it to hide gps trackers? They must be getting cheaper. Eventually you would be able to tag most of your items and find them with an app in your phone.
Posts: 358
Threads: 68
Joined: Nov 2011
quote:
Originally posted by ElysianWort
Sounds like the neighbors were in on it. If power tools were used to break in and take some of the items, how could they not hear or notice? With the amount of items listed it must have been a multiple trip project or some really big trucks with trailers to take the riding mower and all.
Kalakoa is right though. As sick as it sounds you can't expect things not to disappear when unattended that long.
How expensive is it to hide gps trackers? They must be getting cheaper. Eventually you would be able to tag most of your items and find them with an app in your phone.
Sounds like a good opportunity for someone to start a business charging to tag items, track them, etc. Private investigation type thing. The more busts that are made from GPS tracked items (and reported by the media), the more disincentive there will be to steal them. Ideally, it would get to the point that thieves would never know for sure whether they were being tracked.
In the mean time, I would strongly recommend that people leaving on vacation either have a) very reliable and watchful neighbors 2) a person house sitting for them while away. Otherwise you're asking for your stuff to disappear, or perhaps worse, people squatting in your house when you get back.
Posts: 1,120
Threads: 57
Joined: Mar 2013
Here are a couple of articles on modern technology to catch thieves. It would logically start at the top--Chief of Police showing an interest. Police could do a lottery type thing: Set up monitoring with 80-100 east Hawaii residents who are good candidates: 1) own a commonly stolen car model 2) are building a house with a lot of construction materials lying around
(this is one of the best) 3) on vacation for several weeks. (It seems very likely 100s of folks would apply.)
Homeowners and police could split the cost of the trackers and other technology. Prices have really dropped and continue to fall every year. (Or maybe a special appropriation from county or state funds.)
Those 80-100 people would have a desk officer monitoring the computer links full-time (obviously the officer can be doing other things at the same time; much of the process is automated)
(In the future you would want to send out a drone ASAP to site of theft to videotape what is happening/and, in the case of a stolen car, follow the driver.)
Sorry to be cynical here, but this is not brain surgery. Go online, Chief, communicate with some other police departments nationwide which are doing this. I sure you will find a department happy to advise on the process.
Given our theft epidemic, if our police cannot get their act together on this in the next year or two, I would call it an outright f---ing dereliction of duty.
Note some of this technology is several years old.
https://www.policeone.com/police-product...n-the-act/
https://mic.com/articles/130229/these-ma....9wYjA9SkA
https://www.gofleet.com/anti-theft-gps-tracker-bikes/
