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USPS is dictating all the criteria
If it's all or nothing... dictating would be the appropriate description for their approach. As in, from a dictator.
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our bylaws have no provisions for the board to be handling mailbox business, only road maint.
What do the bylaws say about paying DOH fines and filing lawsuits? Allowed?
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To clarify, the board can't use road fee maint money for mailboxes. It's a far stretch to call mailboxes, road maint. The $ would have to come from grants, donations and fund raising by members until the bylaws are changed.
DOH fines are due to Neglected "road maint". So Kenney is right when he/she says that's less $$$ for road maint when we have to pay fines. Seems the board is more in the position of defending or appealing lawsuits, not filing them.
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If the mailboxes were considered part of the road infrastructure a case could easily be made for repairing or replacing them from road maintenance funds. Mailboxes are features placed in the road right of way. If there was insurance on anything then the insurance could be tapped.
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I see what you're saying Rob, for "damaged" mailboxes.
Installing a thousand or more brand new mailboxes, and the whole shebang that goes w/it, installation costs etc, is another story.
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Originally posted by Eric1600
I doubt that mail will ever go away in Hawaii for two reasons: We ship everything in. Secondly, the state still won't accept electronic payments for many things or even a credit card.
The only thing I use my PO box for is to pickup my yellow notices and bring to the window and KTA coupons. On the mainland USPS has already started with informed delivery in which they scan your mail and send images by email. One step closer to no need for delivery. I pay all my bills in HI with online banking no issues.
All the future tech stuff is fantasy if half the people don’t have reliable internet.
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fyi, dw12345, we have informed delivery right here for anyone with a usps.com account. (you use it to buy stamps and for Click n Ship.) At first I thought informed delivery was silly, seeing images of my mail every morning, but it's come in handy more than a few times. They don't scan package labels, though, and so far they've always said I have no packages, even when I do. But the images are fun... and free, too!
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You need a mailbox in HPP otherwise you won't be able to receive your annual HPP road maintenance bill...
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"They don't scan package labels, though, and so far they've always said I have no packages, even when I do."
On your daily digest it says:
"You may have more mail or packages than is shown here. To check, go to your Dashboard"
You have to log into your dashboard to see your packages. Not all of them are there, but I frequently see packages in the dashboard that are on their way to me, as well as ones that have been delivered. The informed delivery technology only applies to machinable mail (usually with no tracking information), the package technology is based on scanning tracking information, the two technologies don't always marry up well in your delivery digest. In fact I don't recall *ever* seeing a package notification in my email digest, but when I log into the dashboard, most of them are there, if they have tracking info.
ETA: I just logged into my dashboard and it's tracking an international package en route that originated with DHL in the UK without USPS tracking info.
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Ah yes, informed delivery, one of the perks of living in a surveillance state!
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/us...-mail.html
Extrapolating from the last census there are at least 4000 households in HPP. Less than 20 bucks a year per household and you could set up private mail delivery to the door. If only government could step in and coordinate that, since there will no doubt be households that object to such an onerous fee.
