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Would be interesting to know the total cost of this incident.
Restaurants, stores and many other kinds of businesses were emptied as people ran for cover.
Across the entire island chain, the cost due to lost revenue could run into the millions of dollars. Wonder if any businesses will sue?
How many people were injured or had property damaged as a result of this? Wonder if any individuals will sue?
Its good to know that the individual supposedly responsible will be "retrained" even though they were not new to their position and also that no disciplinary action is planned.
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Originally posted by PaulW
"Thanks for your opinion, Paul. We'll all make a note of it."
Have you got a problem?
caveat emptor goes to the trouble of posting an article and states why he agrees with at least some of its points.
The least you could do if you want to reply at all is give caveat emptor the courtesy of saying why you disagree with them.
IMHO just saying that caveat emptor article makes no excellent points at all is not pono.
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This is part of the wakeup call about nuclear proliferation. There's been missiles pointed at us for 50 years. I think the time for the existential realization you may die in nuclear hellfire was like 1965. This mistaken attack is one in a long serious of false nuclear alarms.
Here's a brief list of some of the major false attacks some of you might remember.
Oct. 5, 1960: The moon tricks a radar
A false alarm came when an early warning radar in Greenland reported to North American Air Defense Command headquarters that it had detected dozens of inbound Soviet missiles.
The report thrust Norad to its maximum alert level, according to the Union of Concerned Scientists, but officials later determined that the radar had been fooled by the “moonrise over Norway.”
>> Nov. 9, 1979: A ‘war game’ tape causes six minutes of worry
Computers at Norad indicated that the United States was under attack by missiles launched by a Soviet submarine.
Ten jet interceptors from three bases in the United States and Canada were scrambled, and missile bases went on “low#8208;level alert,” The New York Times reported.
When satellite data had not confirmed an attack after six minutes, officials decided that no immediate action was necessary, according to the Union of Concerned Scientists and The Times.
Investigations later discovered that a “war game” tape had been loaded into the Norad computer as part of a test. A technician mistakenly inserted it into the computer.
“The tape simulated a missile attack on North America, and by mechanical error, that information was transmitted into the highly sensitive early warning system, which read it as a ‘live launch’ and thus initiated a sequence of events to determine whether the United States was actually under attack,” The Times reported.
>> June 3, 1980: 2,200 missiles that never came
Less than a year later, computers once again issued a warning about a nuclear attack.
Bomber and tanker crews were ordered to their stations, the National Emergency Airborne Command Post taxied into position, and the Federal Aviation Administration prepared to order every airborne commercial airliner to land, according to the Union of Concerned Scientists and The New Yorker.
President Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, got a call informing him that 2,200 missiles were heading toward the United States.
Then Brzezinski got another call: It had been a false alarm. An investigation later found that a defective computer chip — costing 46 cents — was to blame.
>> Sept. 26, 1983: Similar problems on the other side
Stanislav Petrov [aka. the "man who saved the world"], a 44-year-old lieutenant colonel in the Soviet Air Defense Forces, was the duty officer at a secret command center outside Moscow when the alarms went off.
Computers warned that five missiles had been launched from a U.S. base.
“For 15 seconds, we were in a state of shock,” he later recalled in an interview with The Washington Post.
Petrov, according to his obituary in The Times, was a pivotal cog in the decision-making chain. His superiors at the warning-system headquarters reported to the general staff of the military, which would consult the Soviet leader, Yuri V. Andropov, on whether to launch a retaliatory attack.
Electronic maps and screens were flashing as he tried to absorb streams of information. His training and intuition told him a first strike by the United States would come in an overwhelming onslaught, not “only five missiles,” he told The Post.
After five nerve-wracking minutes, he decided the reports were probably a false alarm.
And they were.
The satellite had mistaken the sun’s reflection off the tops of clouds for a missile launch.
>> Aug. 11, 1984: A joke by the president prompts an alert
Preparing for his regular Saturday afternoon radio broadcast, President Ronald Reagan quipped before a live microphone that he had “signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever” and that “we begin bombing in five minutes.”
Months later, The Times reported that two days after Reagan’s joke, a low-level Soviet military official ordered an alert of troops in the Far East.
The alert was said to have been canceled about 30 minutes later by a higher authority.
U.S. intelligence officials contended the alert was “a nonevent.”
Now with all the play-school posturing over nuclear weapons, we are reliving some of the cold war realities all over again.
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The NY Post reports that the employee was reassigned. I'm afraid to know where.
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I can understand the impulse to punish but, to err is human. I would suggest that the system in place had a flaw which human error would eventually find.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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Mangosteen (13 posts) comment to PaulW (4332 posts):
"caveat emptor (113 posts) goes to the trouble of posting an article and states why he agrees with at least some of its points. The least you could do if you want to reply at all is give caveat emptor the courtesy of saying why you disagree with them...."
Seems we might have some more Newbie-baiting going on. Might be time soon for another of my rants against pompous old timers....
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