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So I must conform to that
Capons are usually slaughtered at 10 months of age, almost all of them will reach that age without crowing.
Eating the few that start to crow between 5 & 10 months is hardly a restriction on your rights. Consider it an appetizer. As well as being a good neighbor.
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"Male chickens raised for meat are called capons, and they're castrated at about 2-3 months of age, well before an uncastrated rooster would start crowing at 5 months old. This keeps most of the capons from crowing, and the ones that do you can eat first."
I think you'd have to go to France to find any meat like that. The meat chickens Americans are accustomed to are an equal mix of hens and cocks, usually slaughtered at 7 weeks.
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You'd have to go to France
Or Safeway:
https://www.instacart.com/safeway/produc...pon-per-lb
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Male chickens raised for meat are called capons, and they're castrated at about 2-3 months of age, well before an uncastrated rooster would start crowing at 5 months old.
So I must conform to that in order to raise animals on my agriculture land?
You sound like you bought one or two acres and want to live like you bought 20 or 30. You do need to consider your neighbors regardless of your land being zoned AG.
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Am I missing something?
If you want to raise chickens for eggs, you can do that.
If you want to raise roosters & chickens for meat, you can do that.
The new regulations would only prevent you from harboring cock fighting roosters which have a single purpose, to have razors strapped to their legs so they fight other birds in gambling rings.
Is that the type of "farming" you're arguing needs protection and preservation? Do you want to raise eggs, meat, ot cockfighting birds?
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We are not talking about food producers here, we are talking about blood sport gamblers operating under the guise of agriculture.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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Sounds like the proposal is precisely to affect cock fighting.
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In the end you are only restricting honest farmers.
Honest farmers can keep as many chickens as they want for eggs. Honest farmers can raise chickens for meat. What other legal chicken related activity is there? I've lived on farms, I've collected eggs, I've watched my grandmother cut off their heads, helped her pluck feathers, then fought over who got a leg for supper. Three kids, two chicken legs. Kinda covered all the chicken related bases so I'm having a hard time understanding what else you think honest, salt of the earth farmers do with their birds?
If someone has 50 hens and a city slicker moves in next door and complains, there's no vague language. They can keep all 50. If they have 50 young roosters, according to terracore they will be butchered for meat at two months old. They don't crow until they're five months old.
Help me out here, please describe a real world scenario in which the new regulation would affect anyone other than illegal cockfighting operations?
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What compelling agricultural reason is there to keep a large number of roosters? Can't 2-3 roosters service the hens, if that is what is desired?
Some commentators seem to be saying this ag restriction is primarily (strictly?) about restraining cockfighting, but the rooster-noise aspect is probably part of this too. 2-3 roosters can be very bothersome to a close neighbor. Or a neighbor 75-100 yards away. (Crowing is loud even at 150 yards.)
The birds are very irritating to some people. 7 days a week at 5:30 a.m. Or earlier. Can't even get a break on Sunday. Six or 10 or 15 or 30 or more roosters--it gets worse and worse.
Just for the record, the natural ambiance in Hawaii's wild lands is very quiet. Small birds, some chirping insects. Our forest lands aren't like those in Africa or South America, where a host of birds and mammals make nature a noisy place. And up until about 10 years ago, when feral roosters started spreading, it was quiet in virtually all Hawaii forests.
This might seem extreme to some folks, but many people place a value on quiet in nature.
Are some ag folks (not cock fighters) really determined to have rooster farms in dense subdivisions???
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Think it’s going to run into “ Regulatory Taking “ issues, don’t think think the county going want to drag the thing thru court for years.
An anti-cockfighting campaign laws enforcement and P.R. might have more bang for the buck. Get someone famous to do a tv ad
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