Gun Control Proposal for Hawaii

[MarkD]

birdmove's post above with its distinction between "bolt action, lever action and pump action rifles" and "semi automatic firearms with replaceable magazines" is one of the more reasonable comments we've seen here.

The latter weapons are not needed for hunting, nor target shooting. They are often used by gun enthusiasts, weapon in one hand, beer in another (sometimes), who like to blast off large numbers of rounds against big targets like empty barrels, watermelons, and, if available, abandoned cars. A demonstration of fire power.

Hopefully we can phase out these guns and shift these folks into using video games. They can join other online shooters. Call of Duty, maybe.

[kalakoa]

who like to blast off large numbers of rounds against big targets like empty barrels, watermelons, and, if available, abandoned cars

I use a paintball gun for that. It's almost as satisfying, with far less downside, and way cheaper.

Extra added bonus: everyone gets their own color of paint, you can actually see who made what targets.

[VancouverIslander]

I think the reasonable limitation for semi-automatics comes with maximum magazine size. I know people who hunt with a semi. Not because they blast off a lot of rounds quickly, but because it reduces the time required for a follow up shot when hunting if required. If a pig charges I could see it being of value here.

Me ka ha`aha`a,
Mike

[kalakoa]

maximum magazine size

Doesn't Hawaii already have this?

[VancouverIslander]

quote:

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Originally posted by kalakoa

maximum magazine size
Doesn't Hawaii already have this?

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As I said a few posts back, the State has a pretty good handle on firearm licensing and regulation.

Me ka ha`aha`a,
Mike

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Puna, Hawaii's Wild West, has gun regulations today that quite closely reflect those in the real Old West. In fact Hawaii's gun laws are more like 1800's Tombstone, Deadwood, Dodge City, or Abilene than gun regulations found in those towns today. Seems like we're on the right track, and headed in the right direction.

“Gun control laws were adopted pretty quickly in these places,” says Winkler. “Most were adopted by municipal governments exercising self-control and self-determination.” Carrying any kind of weapon, guns or knives, was not allowed other than outside town borders and inside the home. When visitors left their weapons with a law officer upon entering town, they’d receive a token, like a coat check, which they’d exchange for their guns when leaving town.

Contrary to the popular imagination, bearing arms on the frontier was a heavily regulated business
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/g...180968013/

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[MarkD]

Good article. There's some pretty wild depictions of gun fire in the history of the West, including drunks regularly firing pistols shots in the ceiling of saloons in exuberance.

And people firing shots at a person's feet, compelling them to dance. The usual victims were people who were judged to be newbies to the West. Tenderfeet. This story has gotten a lot of mileage.

Each probably happened in some cases. But I don't recall many accounts of people in the historical West going on random mass-murder rampages as we see regularly today.

[leilanidude]

But I don't recall many accounts of people in the historical West going on random mass-murder rampages as we see regularly today.
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Of course not. Nearly everyone else was also armed. It simply wasn't possible. Not much different than the Cold War.

[Rob Tucker]

There was the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Approx. 120 mean, women and children murdered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre

I am not aware of any such casual murder in Hawaii.