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Bait cars? How many officers does the HPD put on any given shift in Puna
Bait cars in Puna would by necessity have to operate by remote control. That is, when a thief enters the vehicle and is recognized as such by video uplink to the desk operator in Pahoa, door locks would activate, the engine would stall, leaving power only to the radio, tuned to Hawaii Public Radio, either classical, or news and information.
Then, when three or more Puna patrol officers can rendezvous at the bait car, the thief is apprehended, auditorily sedated by the tranquil sounds of chamber sonatas or an hour long in depth evaluation of key issues facing voters in the upcoming primary election.
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GDhsquare: LMAO - Laughing My Ass Off
Really? Pretty cocky for a Newbie, aren't you? Worse, you're ignorant. Moderator: You need to think and relax a bit before you post. Keep this up and you will be missing for awhile. This is trolling.
(ETA: Agree. My bad.)
"Someone comes onto your property uninvited with intentions to do harm, ventilate them. Make them go out with more holes they came in with. Does anyone here really care about meth heads and perps?"
Everyone who has been in Hawaii for any length of time knows this is rubbish:
1)This isn't Texas, where aggressive self defense is tolerated. Hawaii law enforcement is highly intolerant of people engaging in self defense. They'll throw your ass in prison.
2) Strangers coming to your home to harm you are rare in Hawaii, statistically. Our big problem is theft. You can't just gun down a thief.
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High tech in crime control, including drones and GPS tracking, is inevitable nationwide. Might take a bit longer in Hawaii.
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Hawaii law enforcement is highly intolerant of people engaging in self defense.
Yet they can't (or won't) respond in a timely fashion, if at all.
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hehehehe heh I love how you think!
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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge
Bait cars? How many officers does the HPD put on any given shift in Puna
Bait cars in Puna would by necessity have to operate by remote control. That is, when a thief enters the vehicle and is recognized as such by video uplink to the desk operator in Pahoa, door locks would activate, the engine would stall, leaving power only to the radio, tuned to Hawaii Public Radio, either classical, or news and information.
Then, when three or more Puna patrol officers can rendezvous at the bait car, the thief is apprehended, auditorily sedated by the tranquil sounds of chamber sonatas or an hour long in depth evaluation of key issues facing voters in the upcoming primary election.
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Gdhsquare,
"You are solely responsible to protect your life and your property, not the police. Police only enforce the laws. Stop relying on the police, especially in a place where it is nearly impossible for police to respond in time to help you."[...]
If you your home is in an area that has a mandatory evacuation order, i.e., the one where you face serious charges for just remaining on your own property, then your advice doesn't help very much.
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Originally posted by TomK
Gdhsquare,
"You are solely responsible to protect your life and your property, not the police. Police only enforce the laws. Stop relying on the police, especially in a place where it is nearly impossible for police to respond in time to help you."[...]
If you your home is in an area that has a mandatory evacuation order, i.e., the one where you face serious charges for just remaining on your own property, then your advice doesn't help very much.
I’m speaking in general. If you are evacuated, you are evacuated. Not much can be done and there is not enough police presence to deter looters.
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You may be talking in general, but the thread is about looting in evacuated areas, so your advice is not helpful. Secondly, whether you agree with them or not, there are laws here that might see you spend the rest of your life in prison if you shoot a house invader. You might feel great about stopping the invasion but at the expensive of your freedom.
The law might suck but that's what we have to live with for now.
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Originally posted by Gdhsquare
You are solely responsible to protect your life and your property, not the police. Police only enforce the laws. Stop relying on the police, especially in a place where it is nearly impossible for police to respond in time to help you. You have every Constitutional right to stand your ground. Stop being weak about this. Someone comes onto your property uninvited with intentions to do harm, ventilate them. Make them go out with more holes they came in with. Does anyone here really care about meth heads and perps?
Shooting a bum or two has some atavistic allure but come on, this is ridiculous advice.
"In general", as you say. OK, in general if you're physically on your property then there's basically no problem because 99.9% of time thieves will recognize a presence and stay away, regardless of whether you're as macho as Rambo and armed to the teeth or just another emaciated Puna pacifist with dick in hand.
"Intentions to do harm"- That's where your approach fails in those other .1% occasions. Clearly the intention of a thief is to rob you. That is not considered bodily "harm" in the eyes of the law. So, you shoot them and there's an excellent chance you go to prison.
A good trade off for a moment of catharsis? Not for me.
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It's called herd immunity. If enough homeowners innoculate themselves, the ripper disease will go into decline.
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