Eating organic foods help ward off cancer.

[PaulW]

Does this disdain of science (except when it appears to support your intuition) combined with your superior knowledge based solely on feels, combined with an inability to spell simple words, also cause your face to turn orange yet the areas around your eyes remain white?

[ElysianWort]

Why bad attitude glassnumbers? Because of my eat crow comment? I have really endured the backlash here because of my organic food beliefs and that may be frustration vented.

I enjyed that last post HOTPE.

As I said there isn't anything more to discuss unless you're claiming yet again that my link and the study is "bunk"

Eating Organic is proven to be much better for your health reducing cancer rates.

GMO isn't organic

Roundup isn't organic.

I've seen no posts worthy of a discussion yet.

[PaulW]

"Eating Organic is proven to be much better for your health reducing cancer rates."

That is not true. The study you pointed to doesn't "prove" that at all.
Buying "organic" food leads to sharp pain in the back hip pocket area.

[PaulW]

Many reasons why "organic" food is bad for everyone:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensavag...ab741969c3

[kalakoa]

the people who ate organic food most often had higher incomes, more education and higher-status jobs

Perhaps "eating organic" is merely a symptom of a generally better life?

[randomq]

Not everyone has the time or money to cook meals from raw organic foods. Maybe the answer is to make our prepackaged, processed, and fast foods healthier.

[kalakoa]

Prepackaged food is cheap because it's subsidized. There's a reason HFCS is in everything.

[DTisme]

I’m with PaulW on this one. “Organic” is a crock. My favorite is how they package some products in completely unrecyclable containers. My stepson came home with a container of pureed organic pumpkin. It came in a milk carton-type thing—waxed box paper lined with silver foil. Mixed materials, none of which were recyclable.

[kalakoa]

Mixed materials, none of which were recyclable.

Tetrapak is recyclable in some of the more civilized countries.

[Chunkster]

I have a Master of Science in a research field, and our graduate level methodology professors kept saying over and over, "Commonality does not imply causality." In other words, very exacting measures are required to determine whether two (or more) factors which occur together are caused by one or the other in tandem. For example, the simple fact that the "organic" group ate plenty of fruits and vegetables might be more important than whether those fruits and veggies were organic.

There are a number of red flags in the "Drawbacks of the Study" section at the end of the KTLA5 piece. These include socio-economic preselection, lumping all non-organic food consumers into a single group when there are extremely diverse non-organic options, not looking at what other things organic consumers might be doing to ward off cancer, and not looking more closely at what specific organic foods were eaten. I took a look at the actual published version of the study at:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaint...le/2707948 . The mathematical analysis models they use are pretty solid, so the real issues would appear to be the grouping and selection factors that I just mentioned.

A well-regarded Harvard reviewer says that while the study in question is important, the case isn't made: “At the current stage of research, the relationship between organic food consumption and cancer risk is still unclear,” Chavarro and his co-authors wrote in the commentary.

Having said all that and expressed my doubts, I'm pretty sure that eating organic isn't going to hurt anyone as long as they eat a varied diet.