Pacific Spaceport in Keaau?

[alaskyn66]

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Originally posted by leilanidude

How sad. Misguided and uninformed folks. The one lady compares it to an airport.No one will even be able to hear the rocket launches from more than 2 miles away. They just are not large enough.

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Exactly. these arent saturn 4 rockets with boosters we are talking about here. Small and ulta small rockets like seen here.

https://www.google.com/search?q=liquid+a...h+vehicles.&tbm=isch&source=univ&client=firefox-b-1-d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjT9L3ygaDgAhVfJzQIHdkSCPYQ7Al6BAgEEA8&biw=1228&bih=591#imgdii=JrB7_VplH-gZwM:&imgrc=1L9YAQlmZqjicM:

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

A meeting about the satellite launch facility is scheduled for this week:

Wed, Feb 6th
5-7 p.m.
Grand Naniloa Hotel, Hilo

Written comments will be accepted at the meeting. They also can be submitted until March 6 to PSCH.EA.Project@kfs-llc.com.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Environmental assessment begins on the potential site for East Hawaii spaceport. Update includes photos of satellite dimensions, launch area size and comparison with Prince Kuhio shopping mall:

http://www.pacificspacecenter.com/enviro...st-hawaii/

“I think your article has been interpreted as that you were OK with dwarf-tossing.” - Sen Mazie Hirono 2/5/19, questioning a (qualified?) judicial nominee (no doubt in defense of Menehune rights through her understanding of their historical plight)

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Big crowd last night at the Naniloa for the spaceport meeting. This time presenters were better prepared with visual aids:

Twenty seven eight-by-ten color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, and looked at the seeing eye dog... and... came to the realization that it was a typical case of American Blind justice, and there wasn't nothing he could do about it...*

http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2019/0...s-a-crowd/

* Not from the article. Excerpt from Alice's Restaurant, with an assumption those viewing the visual aids at the Naniloa will have a similar response as the judge in Alice's Restaurant

[rrlovesbi]

I remember seeing this article from Dec 28th where the project was downplayed as just a proposal. Our elected representatives knew nothing about it, except those who believe that a financial gain trumps all other logical reasoning against it. Meanwhile $250K was appropriated for an environmental study and we have already had public hearings. It's astounding that we still have properties in lower Puna cut off from access, due to the lava flow, no boat ramp, a pool that needed to be drained and filters cleaned finally reopened, etc. and unless a lawsuit is filed the spaceport will probably begin construction in a few months. What's next a spent nuclear fuel rod processing facility?

https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2018/12/...vPKrhRMbyY

[Tink]

I find it odd that a project like this can begin construction almost immediately through Building Department plan check, permits, etc., while a simple single story wood framed residence take years.
Also, last I checked definitions of words, a small rocket is called a "missile". So, in all it's a missile launch facility meant to huck volleyball sized satellites at the rate of two a week. Looks like Tom and UKIRT are gonna be busy!

Community begins with Aloha

[glinda]

I find it odd that a project like this can begin construction almost immediately through Building Department plan check, permits, etc., while a simple single story wood framed residence take years.

Lotta misconceptions there Tink.

Last set of house plans I ran through county took about a month. Custom home all around, lotta engineering, but damn if you make sure your plans are well done and every issue anticipated and addressed before you submit them it is not hard to get through the process at all. It certainly ain't rocket science.

They guys say 24 launches a year. So where you get 2 a week is a bit of a mystery.

So, what is all the humbug? From what I can tell this proposal is so small, so low impact, when compared to something as normal, and accepted, and already happening, like an airport. These guys could take a plot of land on the end of a runway at ITO and not even be seen, or felt, when compared to all the planes already coming and going.

I saw one clip (on TV) of some lady going on how she and her's have lived on Hawaiian Home Lands all her life and somehow her "plight" was supposed to be important to the discussion. The fricking area being proposed ain't next to anyone. So, what really is the problem?

Those rockets are small. The whole enterprise could bring all sorts of side gigs to our community. I have a friend that does really high end machining of parts for the telescopes on Mauna Kea, right here on island, and imagine we could have satellite builders put up shops here too. Or get some contract to built the rockets themselves. Who knows, but the idea that we would reject the opportunity for this kind of endeavor over some sort of unfounded fear of boogymen in closets doesn't make sense to me.

[Guest]

Glinda, I would like to speak to your friend on some production parts I would like made

If his shop is between Blanes and Hilo Bike Hub I know who it is already..

Oh and totally agree on stuff like this being made here ... ALL IN !

[PaulW]

Glinda, somebody has hijacked your account!

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

So, what is all the humbug? From what I can tell this proposal is so small, so low impact... when compared to all the planes already coming and going.

I have a feeling if during the proposed mini rocket launch you took one of the many subwoofer-midnight-rap-cruzers that drive by my house at midnight, and parked him out near the proposed rocket liftoff - - all you'd hear 10 miles away in Pana'ewa would be the distant sound of:
"GONNA KILL DA MANZ, KILL DA CRAZY SUCKA MANZ
<BOOM BA BOOM chucka>
SHOOT OUT WITH DA MANZ, DAT CRAZY SUCKA MANZ
<chucka chucka>

"wooaah dude, what a cool rumble-whoosh sound in the break."
"what rumble-whoosh? I didn't notice nothin'."