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The Mauna Kea Plan
#11
Agree wholeheartedly with random q. On mayor Kim's plan though, the H Star stated he says the last place to be developed should be the TMT site. With all the court proceedings, rulings, etc.. Let the lawsuits begin at the taxpayers expense. But, what else is new. To them it is all "other people's money".
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#12
To be fair to Mayor Kim, he's the only politician who has actually tried to do something. Kai Kahele tried but he just ended up insulting people and their intelligence. Ige passed the buck and so what other politician has actually tried to fix the current situation?
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#13
Protectors: We're going to block any development at the summit of Mauna Kea because it's sacred and any development up there is desecration.

Uncle Harry: Ok I hear you, here's my counter offer, let's build a huge cultural center on the summit.

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#14
Protectors don't care so much about the flanks of Mauna Kea? Not sacred?

Who will run this Hawaiian Kingdom? Is there a place to see their mission statement? Where funding comes from for governing "their style" for lack of a better term?
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#15
Even though the original Hawaiian Kingdom had citizens of all races, a Native Hawaiian Constitutional Convention in 2016 determined that only native Hawaiians would be citizens of a future kingdom. So there's your mission statement.

As to funding, they decided kingdom citizenship does not exclude one from US citizenship, so they can have their cake and eat it too.
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#16
"Uncle Harry: Ok I hear you, here's my counter offer, let's build a huge cultural center on the summit."

Where is this stated in Kim's plan?
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#17
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Originally posted by TomK

"Uncle Harry: Ok I hear you, here's my counter offer, let's build a huge cultural center on the summit."

Where is this stated in Kim's plan?


I was going off of SBH's post but after reading the actual plan, the facility is going to be around Hale Pohaku not the summit. It's under Lasners portion.
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#18
This is why you should always go to the actual source and not believe what people here or on general social media claim. Unfortunately, social media has taken over these days. You can respond to nonsense there with facts but unfortunately, any correction will not follow the original claim so nonsense gets propagated and there's no way to stop it.

It's an unfortunate fact of modern life that people are too lazy to research what they hear and simply take what they see on social media as fact. You've just given an example of that.
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#19
People trust social media because our institutions have lost their trust. Corrupt politicians, rich getting richer, class mobility at an all time low, foods and drugs and chemicals that kill you, religious abuse, ...

People are desperate for the truth, but just finding more a******* willing to lie to them to forward their own agendas. Social media is astroturfed like everything else. OHA spent almost $40,000 to manipulate social media around the protests. Don't believe a thing!
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#20
People trust socual media because they have a voice, of at least think they do. Eventually everyone will realize government exists for a reason, and voting will be regarded as important again, hopefully in a way it hasn’t achieved thus far.
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