Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here)

[ironyak]

I haven't found a 'real' source
"On the origin and continuing evolution of SARS-CoV-2"
https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-art...36/5775463

Basically, there is evidence of multiple strains of the virus and the less lethal form is becoming more prevalent (which is common as less lethal viruses spread more easily)

In Hawaii, more event cancellations (Mariah Carey now giving a Christmas concert instead) and airlines are offering $99 one-way Spring Break deals from California (social distancing? we don't need no stinking social distancing! Live by tourism and die by it apparently)
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/alaska-...alifornia/

[terracore]

Unfortunately, multiple strains complicate vaccine efforts. The closest thing to this virus they have experience with is SARS, and after 16 years they have been unable to produce an effective vaccine. The one they developed actually caused the test animals to die at a higher rate if vaccinated and then exposed to the actual virus. I don't know if its the same mechanism as how Dengue reinfections are more deadly than initial infections but the outcome was similar. There is a Dengue vaccine but it's not safe to get it unless you've already had Dengue.

[kalakoa]

Live by tourism and die by it apparently

Divide the $400M estimated tourism impact by ( 1.42M population x 3.4% death rate = 48280 ) and you get $8285. Whatever that measures.

But they can run 250 tests a week now!

[terracore]

Flight cancellations coming to Hawaii?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/united-c...break.html

[kander]

As with most things of economies of scale if calculated with 10% fatality rate value per life is much cheaper.
Its nice to see your 3.4% rate, if that can really be "nice" because its still nearly twice the Spanish flu rate and I think its bound to go higher.
Interesting if not unfortunate to hear that the man made vaccines they are testing are increasing fatalities in lab test animals.

[kander]

LAX another Hub for flights to Hawaii, Screener tests positive.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-ne...s-n1149986

In other news: Mutated strains.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2020...scientists

[terracore]

This cruise ship was in Hilo 4 days ago:

Princess Cruises issues coronavirus 'Health Advisory Letter' warning Grand Princess passengers of connection

Princess Cruises said Wednesday that it had issued a “Health Advisory Letter” to guests who are currently aboard — or were recently aboard — the Grand Princess cruise liner, following news that the CDC was investigating a “small cluster” of COVID-19 cases “connected to” the ship’s previous sailing.

The advisory also urged anyone who believes they may be experiencing symptoms of the coronavirus to contact their medical providers immediately.

The letter, which was also posted to the Princess Cruises website, was attributed to Dr. Grant Tarling, Princess Cruises’ chief medical officer.

“I wish to advise you that today we have been notified by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) that they are investigating a small cluster of COVID-19 (coronavirus) cases in Northern California connected to our previous Grand Princess voyage that sailed roundtrip San Francisco from Feb. 11 to Feb. 21,” the letter reads, in part.

“We are working closely with our CDC partners and are following their recommendations.”

Per Tarling’s letter, the CDC advised anyone who had sailed on the previous voyage, and also on the current voyage, to “remain in your stateroom” until contacted by medical staff.

Tarling added that Princess Cruises was working closely with the CDC, and also meeting with them on Wednesday, to determine “what, if any actions need to be taken during this cruise and on arrival in San Francisco.” Princess Cruises would also be sharing information with the CDC regarding previous passengers who may have been exposed, so they could be notified.

As a result of these developments, Princess Cruises had canceled the Grand Princess’ planned March 5 stop in Ensenada, Mexico, to instead sail directly back to San Francisco.

The letter also included steps for reducing the likelihood of spreading or contracting the novel coronavirus. A full copy of the letter can be found on Princess Cruises’ website.

On Wednesday, the same day the letter was issued, public health authorities in Placer County, Calif., reported the state’s first death from COVID-19, in a patient believed to have been exposed during the previous Grand Princess voyage.

“Preliminary understanding from the contact investigation is that this patient had minimal community exposure between returning from the cruise and arriving at the hospital by ambulance on Feb. 27,” per a press release from Placer County.

The current sailing of the Grand Princess departed from San Francisco on Feb. 21, with scheduled stops in Hawaii and Mexico. Princess Cruises was not immediately available to confirm how many passengers were aboard the current or previous sailing.

Princess Cruises also operated the Diamond Princess liner, which was recently quarantined at a port in Japan following a coronavirus outbreak that infected hundreds of passengers.

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/princess-...connection

ETA: It was on all the islands:

26-Feb-2020 Nawiliwili Kauai (Hawaii), United States 08:00-17:00
27-Feb-2020 Honolulu-Oahu (Hawaii), United States 07:00-23:00
28-Feb-2020 Lahaina-Maui (Hawaii), United States 07:00-18:00
29-Feb-2020 Hilo (Hawaii), United States 08:00-17:00

[kander]

And we all know where many of the passengers go when let off the cruise ship. I hope this turns out to be nothing.

[PaulW]

Uh-oh. Thanks terracore.

[terracore]

quote:

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Originally posted by kander

And we all know where many of the passengers go when let off the cruise ship. I hope this turns out to be nothing.

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Actually, I didn't know other than the cruise ship zombies I occasionally see walking away from the docks to the usual spots like Banyan Drive so I googled and found these 30 places they go:

https://www.princess.com/ports-excursion...excursions