Green says masks will be last to go

[HawaiiEV]

If a surgeon didn't wash hands and wear gloves, you'd blame him for malpractice, not the secret lab that created the E. Coli you got sick from.

Huh? So because everyone in Hawaii wears masks as they were told you are blaming them for what? Is the problem that they didn’t wear gloves? Whats the secret?

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

so your sure that of the over 1 million reports that have been submitted,…

No, I’m not sure.  I’m also not sure every report submitted is accurate, as their home page says.

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Wouldn’t it be more prudent to blame the Chinese lab in Wuhan from where it was released… 

No.  Because all indications are that it didn’t originate in a lab.  Of course I’ve never been to Wuhan to check it out myself, has anyone here on Punaweb?  So I can only read reports like this one from 4 days ago:

Scientists released a pair of extensive studies over the weekend that point to a large food and live animal market in Wuhan, China, as the origin of the coronavirus pandemic.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022...igins.html

[Rob Tucker]

You are coming up empty so far kander. I will give you to noon tomorrow. I consider what you are doing to be fearmongering... and I won't tolerate it.

[kander]

No, I’m not sure.  I’m also not sure every report submitted is accurate, as their home page says.

What would be the magic number that would cause you concern?

and as far as the fish market theory. its complete BS.. The odds of having a patented gene sequence used to make the sars-cov-2 is astronomically high. It came from a lab.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...imlessnews

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You are coming up empty so far kander.  I will give you to noon tomorrow.  I consider what you are doing to be fearmongering... and I won't tolerate it.

How so Rob? I provided you with a link to the searchable vaers database. which you or anyone can pick their parameters on all death from covid-19 in the years 2020-2021. I even included a screen shot of such search. That is not "empty"
. Now if you think the data is inaccurate or false there is not much I can do but the vaers database has been used for decades to determine vaccine risks to the public. Your old enough to remember all the people who were injured over the swine flu vaccine drive in the 70's (maybe) and you likely remember how bad that turned out. the cv19 vaccines are statistically higher. Yet this time are we choosing to ignore it?

Im not fear mongering. If the truth causes fear what does that mean?

[HawaiiEV]

Scientists released a pair of extensive studies over the weekend that point to a large food and live animal market in Wuhan, China, as the origin of the coronavirus pandemic.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022...igins.html

I am unable to see that article but I did find an article about the studies on yahoo, not peer reviewed and. no smoking gun. FOIA emails show officials and intelligence thought it was a lab leak. There’s countless evidence of a lab leak including the recently discovered Antarctica samples. Most of the various evidence and theories is summed up here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...heory.html

I guess it comes down to blaming the Chinese culture or the lab near by that was known to be working on bat coronavirus gain of function research along with eco health alliance who was banned from doing gain of function research in the US. Fauci uses some interesting deflection tactics to explain to the senate how evolving coronaviruses to infect humans is not gain of function. We shall see.

[Rob Tucker]

I'm not doing your homework for you kander.

[kander]

I'm not doing your homework for you kander.

hmm. I See.

[HawaiiEV]

Somehow people can find significance in a test tube study of liver cells (newsflash, the vaccines are intramuscular) and yet ignore the unnecessary death of hundreds of thousands. Willful ignorance and sociopathy.

When searching for information just now about the vaccine I found this article from someone looking into the newly released Pfizer documents. Of interest to you might be the lipid nano particles that contain the MRNA distribute around the body and start accumulating in all the organs, the most of which besides the arm muscle is found in the liver. I guess this is all new data that was recently released by the FDA so it will take some time to get through all of it. This is from Pfizer’s own studies so not a secondary source. Maybe you might consider that this could explain the vaccine effects found in the liver?

https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/pfiz...elease?s=r

[Puna Grace]

Kander, going forward, may I humbly suggest that you limit your unsupported fear mongering to positions that the mod agrees with and can tolerate.  That way, you remain out of the cross hairs.   Some of us appreciate your efforts to bring balanced information to the conversation.  You would be missed.  Still yet, the fear that is clearly coming up to a boil here is completely understandable.  No sense stoking that.  Empathy is the key.   Aloha.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

kander & HawaiiEV,
Do you research your sources?

Daily Mail - it’s the National Enquirer of Britain.  https://www.quora.com/How-credible-is-the-Daily-Mail

The Naked Emperor - from his or her site: “Analysing the facts to come to my own conclusions. Looking to be challenged to expand my knowledge.”
What do they bring to the table other than doing their own research and arriving at personal conclusions? Who are they?  What is their background?