School bus blues

[AaronM]

Nice TC, very nice.

[leilanidude]

They straight up told me that they were going to renovate them and make living quarters out of them. Strip out the seats and add bedrooms and kitchenettes and rent them out as B&B’s, on their property.
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Leilani FB page has a post on this. The apparent owners jumped on claiming that a lawyer told them they could do it and they claimed there that the busses are for agriculture use... From the FB post: "...We have an llc and are using them for agricultural purposes..." Wonder if that means, growing weed?

['elepaio]

Devil's Advocate here, ya know, BC PW

Rus(h)2112, IS the owner of the busez doing research ..

Friends close and enemies closer.

just sayin'

Q: Are they even the property owners? Any sane person in L would know this is a NG from the first figment

[kalakoa]

Section 19-2.
Definitions.
“Farm dwelling” means a single-family dwelling located on and used in direct connection with a farm, or
where the agricultural activity provides income to the occupant(s) of the dwelling. A farm dwelling includes
employee housing for that farm.

Section 25-5-77. Other regulations.
© Additional farm dwellings may be permitted in the A district only upon the following conditions:
(1) A farm dwelling agreement for each additional farm dwelling, on a form prepared by the director,
shall be executed between the owner of the building site, any lessee having a lease on the building
site with a term exceeding one year from the date of the farm dwelling agreement, and the County.
The agreement shall require the dwelling to be used for farm-related purposes.
(2) The applicant shall submit an agricultural development and use program, farm plan or other
evidence of the applicant’s continual agricultural productivity or farming operation within the
County to the director. Such plan shall also show how the farm dwelling will be utilized for
farm-related purposes.

Rules and laws "for everyone", right?

[MyManao]

Currently, there are a total of six full size school buses on my neighbors Leilani Estates lot..

So many folks in the less civilized parts of the island use matches to solve their problems these days.. if I were you I'd be worried about fire.. make sure your policy's paid up.. important stuff already removed for safe keeping and all that..

[AaronM]

Currently, there are a total of six full size school buses on my neighbors Leilani Estates lot..

So many folks in the less civilized parts of the island use matches to solve their problems these days.. if I were you I'd be worried about fire.. make sure your policy's paid up.. important stuff already removed for safe keeping and all that..

Do the moronic things you say just pop into your head automatically or do you have to format them for this medium?

[MyManao]

Do the moronic things you say just pop into your head automatically or do you have to format them for this medium?

Wow. Just wow.

So what, Aaron, am I to take that to mean you are one of them kine folks that thinks the whole world is just like you, and anyone that deviates from your comfort zone, your ideas, and the things you are aware of, is in you words, moronic? Really? Dude, open your eyes. The facts are that’s how some people deal with their differences hereabouts. Seriously, they’ll bury you in a frickin loi if you give ‘em too much grief.

For instance, take the two house fires last fall in Waipio Valley..

https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/202...ouse-fire/
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/202...structure/

You’d be surprised how often disputes get to that point. Sheesh, even geochem, a long time member of PW and a land owner in Volcano, had his placed torched.. 

But no. In your mind anyone that would suggest it’s something to worry about is a moron. Like I said, wow.

[AaronM]

So, you're an arsonist?

[bulldog]

Section 19-2.
Definitions.
“Farm dwelling” means a single-family dwelling located on and used in direct connection with a farm, or
where the agricultural activity provides income to the occupant(s) of the dwelling. A farm dwelling includes
employee housing for that farm.

Section 25-5-77. Other regulations.
© Additional farm dwellings may be permitted in the A district only upon the following conditions:
(1) A farm dwelling agreement for each additional farm dwelling, on a form prepared by the director,
shall be executed between the owner of the building site, any lessee having a lease on the building
site with a term exceeding one year from the date of the farm dwelling agreement, and the County.
The agreement shall require the dwelling to be used for farm-related purposes.
(2) The applicant shall submit an agricultural development and use program, farm plan or other
evidence of the applicant’s continual agricultural productivity or farming operation within the
County to the director. Such plan shall also show how the farm dwelling will be utilized for
farm-related purposes.

Rules and laws "for everyone", right?

         Leilani Estates subdivision, created in 1969, CCR’s restriction 
        #2 states:  SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. All of the lots shall be used only
         for single family residence (hereinafter referred to as "residence") and
         purposes incidental thereto, one such residence only being permitted on
         each such lot.

This language can be used because the Hawaii Land Use Regulatory declares: On lots created by subdivisions approved after June 4, 1976, homes are supposed to be “farm dwellings”, or  otherwise accessory to agriculture, but in pre-June 4, 1976 subdivisions the homes can be “single family dwellings.”

If you're adding additional “dwellings”, they are residences, not “farm dwelling housing”,  every person that purchased a single family residence agreed to this when they signed the contract, including the bus owners.

[Durian Fiend]

So, you're an arsonist?

BEWARE of arsonists when living in the proximity of a property that could be targeted by others. After all, a fire could spread your way.

This interpretation seemed fairly clear to me.