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Someone probably turned around and backed into them.
In HPP a driver could manage that moving forward too.
Have you seen the new signage, reflector posts, road bumps, etc at the top of Paradise Drive & Highway 130? Drivers blew through the stop sign there often enough and into the yard of the family mauka of Highway 130, that you now have to thread the needle through an obstacle course on Paradise Drive at the intersection, which is intended to make it more difficult to not see the stop sign.
The mail boxes in the photo don’t show dents or major damage so whoever hit them was probably driving at slow speed.
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I live in a town of fewer than 1200 people. No mail delivery; I get my mail at a PO Box. Which I can walk to.
I'll never understand the Hawaii problem.
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(11-19-2024, 06:22 PM)kalakoa Wrote: I live in a town of fewer than 1200 people. No mail delivery; I get my mail at a PO Box. Which I can walk to.
I'll never understand the Hawaii problem.
I live on an island with around 200k people.. where I live there is no mail delivery. I get my mail at the PO.
I had no idea Hawaii has a problem.
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I live on an island with around 200k people.. where I live there is no mail delivery
How close do you live to the PO?
Does your PO have boxes available for all who want one?
If so, is this trus for the other 199,999 people on the island?
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To be clear, we have mail delivery in general, just not for people in or near downtown.
Our post office has plenty of available boxes.
In any case, HPP has a far larger population, yet somehow these services aren't available.
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(11-19-2024, 07:50 PM)kalakoa Wrote: To be clear, we have mail delivery in general, just not for people in or near downtown.
Our post office has plenty of available boxes.
In any case, HPP has a far larger population, yet somehow these services aren't available.
Aloha Kalakoa,
The reason for the lack of service is a two-fold problem. Some of the problem is HPPOA and some is the USPS themselves.
HPP Owners have been trying, for decades, to get the USPS to address the problem. In the beginning, the bad roads (really bad) were a problem. In addition, there are many lots in HPP but many were undeveloped. The addresses of HPP Owners were never included in the USPS system. Most importantly the cost for USPS to "solve" the problem was an expensive one for them. So, for decades they have been trying to get HPPOA to "cooperate" with them.
HPPOA has also been discussing the lack of mail service in HPP for decades. However, until recently the past board members still understood some of the organization's past history and recognized their obligations and limitations. HPPOA has no authority to represent HPP Owners in any matters that do not pertain to road maintenance. Prior to recently, past board's understood the need to ask for HPP Owner consent, they also understood the deed restrictions. Owners understood too. Which is WHY there were Owner mailbox committees. Unfortunately, ALL boards, past and present, have interfered and squashed any attempts made by Owners to solve the problem.
Ultimately, the entire situation is about control (the HPPOA board) and money (as in how much the USPS can save for themselves). What HPP Owners want/need has always been low on the list.
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"What HPP Owners want/need has always been low on the list."
I've wanted/needed a mailbox for years. Happy I MIGHT get one...
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(11-20-2024, 07:14 AM)Chas Wrote: "What HPP Owners want/need has always been low on the list."
I've wanted/needed a mailbox for years. Happy I MIGHT get one...
Aloha Chas,
My family and I pay for a PMB (private mail box). Expensive. But we need one. So when we found out we could not get one in HPP or rent one at the Post Office, we did what we needed to do...
I have written numerous emails to the HPPOA board. I have written numerous emails to the USPS. I have written to Jill Tokuda. I have written to Brian Shotz. I have written to the governor. I have written to our state representatives. I have written to our County Council. I have written to the mayor. And I will KEEP doing so.
Do we need a resolution and a FIX to the mail problem in HPP? Yes, yes we do. But using money that our neighbors have paid in good faith for road maintenance to get what we want (something that is not roads) is not right. So, I will continue to keep looking, writing, and asking for a better solution.
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The painful irony of which is: that PMB still can't be anywhere near your house.
(A PMB also can't be used when dealing with any entity encumbered by ITAR, but most people never discover that limitation.)
Even more off-topic, but: my "mailbox workaround" was to buy a lot in a subdivision that already had cluster boxes. Property taxes and association dues were still cheaper than a PMB, and I got a real street address. Sold the lot for a small profit when I left the island. Desperate times and all that.
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I'm happy with the solution they came up with. It's a shame that the money our neighbors have paid in good faith is now being used to fight lawsuits.
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