Moving to East Hawaii & Seeking a Job? Pls read.

[HiloHaole]

Be prepared for rejection, rejection, rejection.
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/arti...ocal03.txt

[Chunkster]

Every few years this problem gets mentioned in the press, and then it goes into the background once again without anything changing. When I moved here, the first thing I noticed when I went to all the county offices to register vehicles, get a driver's license, make property tax arrangements, etc., was the total lack of caucasian people in the offices. When I commented about this to a Japanese neighbor, she told me that rampant racial discrimination has been rife thoughout the county hiring process for decades.

Perhaps a massive lawsuit $$ award would create some incentive to change this. And yes, some will say that this is OK because of past discrimination against non-whites, but it isn't. Some large damages have been awarded to white victims of discrimination. It is wrong no matter who does it.



Edited by - Chunkster on 05/23/2007 07:37:10

[bystander]

The thing is haoles have no way to fight descrimination without being villified and associated with groups like the KKK. Fighting racism agaist whites is what David Duke is all about and his name is dirt. He is a pariah that nobody in their right mind would want to be associated with. That's way any lawsuit will fail, I'm sorry to say. I agree that discrimination against anyone or group is wrong.

[Punamom]

The coh does have their token haoles but they are all Jewish.It will be interesting to see the ethnic breakdown,But Jews are white so good luck with that one.

[holahan]

aloha all,

in my mind, it's no different than in the states, when established businesses won't hire foreigners, illegals, etc.

not saying that it is right, but all newcomers have to "pay their dues," in one form or another. each new wave of immigrants in america have encountered such resistance. it's a lack of understanding, acceptance and so on. nothing new in my mind.

hawai'i is not the mainland, and unfortunately, that's how it goes. if one moves to hawai'i and expects the long-standing "locals," to embrace every newcomer with open arms, they're in for a big suprise. oftentimes, folks are hesitant to connect with newcomers in hawai'i, as they seem to move on, and break those strong ties and friendships, which are at the heart of life in hawai'i.

the old saying "it's not what you know, but who you know," is very true in hawai'i. unfortunately, this gal may have to take the job she can get, pay her dues, make the friendships, and build from there.

just my thoughts,

malama pono,

:?)

[HiloHaole]

It's not the same as established businesses won't hire foreigners, illegals, etc. Haoles from the mainland are not foreigners and are not illegals. An electrician (Haole) that was born here is still discriminated against even thought he's been here longer than almost all those that discriminate against him. The Japanese inspectors are always discriminating against him. Long's Drugstores (controlled and catering to the Japanese) are always discriminating against Haoles. The corporate office in California allows it since it doesn't want to upset profits.

[HiloHaole]

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It's not the same as established businesses not hiring foreigners, illegals, etc. Haoles from the mainland are not foreigners and are not illegals. An electrician (Haole) that was born here is still discriminated against even though he's been here longer than almost all those that discriminate against him. The Japanese inspectors are always discriminating against him. Long's Drugstores (controlled and catering to the Japanese) are always discriminating against Haoles. The corporate office in California allows it since it doesn't want to upset profits.

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[leilaniguy]

You have to remember locals are suspicious of all outsiders beceause of the "here today, gone to Maui" syndrome. People come here with the best of intentions, then split within a few months because of island fever or other neurotic, selfish reasons. That makes locals become suspect of their intentions, wonder why.



Edited by - leilaniguy on 05/23/2007 20:48:29

[malolo]

Hmmm.
Yes.
I read that article when it first appeared.
And it really pissed me off.

Seems to me there are always plenty of people who -- when they don't get a particular job, when they don't get that break they feel they deserve, when they have to be patient and wait (for whatever it may be they're after) just like everyone else on the planet, when no one's fanning them and peeling their grapes, when they don't happen to be treated like the royalty they undoubtedly are -- are wayyy to quick to blame it all on the race thing.

Maybe, just maybe, it's something else entirely.

[Chunkster]

Malolo, if it is "something else entirely," why are there so few caucasians working in county offices? I personally know of half a dozen qualified people who have applied for county positions and been similarly rejected. I hope the newspaper publishes the employee racial breakdown when the county finally releases it. It should abe interesting. Many of us are sure they are using the full ten days allowed by law to provide the information in hope that the whole thing blows over. This is not the first time such accusations have been made. Hopefully, the lady will sue and get a huge award, which might be incentive for the county to change.