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Ed, Are you prepared to have an environmental impact study done on your pastries? Just kidding!
Hawaii is a pretty daunting place to start a business, however. I think the weekly markets, print promotion, and word of mouth are the best way to keep overhead down. (As opposed to a permanant, staffed facility) Instead of a shop, have a regularly sceduled route that brings your product to people not interested in traveling for fresh pastry. I grew up with the Helms bakery man cruising the hood, ringing his chimes.........be right back, I've got the munchies.
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Kapohocat,
Try this:
12 oz choc chips
120z butterscotch chips
1 can bordens sweet condensed milk
Melt all of the above together in a double boiler till smooth and creamy.
Add 1 tsp of vanilla, chopped nuts of choice
(about 1-1 1/2 cups)
spread into a pyrex dish to set up till firm.
Cut in squares and enjoy!
My pal Andrea used to do wholesale pastries for Harrington's etc. She did really well. We have always said a place to go after shopping or movie for cake & coffee would be great. And I dont mean Ken's or yucky IHOP. Really great pastries with real sugar & butter (sorry KTA IMHO doesnt know how to make a decent pastry or cake). The kind that are so rich and yummy that you have to split them! WHEN DO YOU OPEN???? ha ha
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OMG I am so having an attack for something sweet and gooey.
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EMERGENCY FUDGE
2 T SUGAR
1 T COCOA
Mix in small pan. Add several T water and mix well while warming a burner to high. Let boil 30 seconds to 1 minute.
2 T peanut butter
Mix in till smooth, try to let cool, eat while fighting off spouse and his spoon.
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Thanks for the memories Nancy - that was the recipe for making fudge in the field with army C rations, mmmmmm
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Ed, you may not have been around when beachboy was asking about setting up as a food vendor (use the search feature " Certified Kitchen " to find the March discussion) anyhoo this is excepted from a post then "As Carrie pointed out, many places (esp. some churches) have Cert. Kitchen & rent them out. In fact, many rummage sales that are at venues that do not have a cert. kitchen often rent out one to produce their bentos 'n' such - that is what our church currently does as they are in the throws of updating their very dated facilities (which also includes updating from cesspool & much else)...
if you don't want to establish a certified kitchen, you may want to check out some of the public venues in HPP to see if they have a rental kitchen available...may make it a more affordable entry if you want to 'try the waters' without jumping into the full Health Dept. regs. Although some of the vendors may not be using cert. kitchens, it is required if you are supply food to the public, our church was told that even to supply free coffee to people waiting for a rummage sale would need a cert. kitchen...the big question would then be, will you get caught? and do you care? (Something you may want to ask if you are BUYING the food from a vendor...if the cook doesn't care....)
the state site, which includes vendor permits, fees & such:
http://www.hawaii.gov/health/environment.../11-12.pdf
and here is a temporary vendor application:
http://www.hawaii.gov/health/environment...aleapp.pdf
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There's a really amazing place in Sacramento, CA called Rick's Dessert Diner. All they do is pastries, cakes, tortes and the occasional cookie. They also have really good coffee and they are set up like a 50's diner so you can sit and enjoy a 4 or five layer piece of cake. MMMMmmmmmmmm
I'd love to find something like that anywhere. Maybe not the 50's style decor, but definitely a desert and pastry shop where you can sit for a while if you want to, or take something to go. When I have a sweet tooth, I don't want just anything, I want something SATISFYING. I want to feel like it was worth it. The kind of thing that only a tall glass of cold milk or really good coffee can wash down....
If you had a shop to go to, I'd be there 
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quote:
...definitely a desert and pastry shop where you can sit for a while if you want to, or take something to go. When I have a sweet tooth, I don't want just anything, I want something SATISFYING. I want to feel like it was worth it. The kind of thing that only a tall glass of cold milk or really good coffee can wash down....
If you had a shop to go to, I'd be there
That recipe sounds yummy! I think too many of the resturants here serve the Cost Co cheesecake (which isnt bad as far as store bought deserts go) but George from Pizza Hawaii (when it was in Honomu) used to make real New York Cheesecake, and real bagels!! (he is from New York so we got the accent to go with the bagels!) Dont know why he stopped because that was the best part of going there!
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Ed? Hi! I agree with those who've suggested you find a way to begin without incurring the enormous overhead-costs. Believe me, zillions of small businesses have come and gone here over the years, mainly I believe, because (otherwise talented and savy) folks leaped in way over their heads without having done the research.
My ex and I ran a successful business from our home in HPP for over 15 years and managed to sell it (to another guy who's doing quite nicely) for a pretty good wad. I'm convinced though, that had we opened an actual storefront somewhere, we'd have gone bust within the year.
Good luck with whatever you decide of course!
---malolo (who, though she'd certainly buy a pastry or two on occasion, would prefer to frequent a super-high-quality gym out this way!)
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I agree with most on this thread, KTA/Safeway etc... YUCKO!
I would love to see a GOOD bakery open & I'd be there all the time. O'keefe's in Hilo is pretty good but they don't have much variety.
I have a baking question. Do you think anything needs to be altered regarding temps etc because of the humidity? On the last two visits I have tried to make whipped cream and could not get it to set right. I even borrowed a friend's Kitchen Aid and it wouldn't work. Any suggestions?
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