An attempt to divert lava

[punafish]

The reality of living in a lava zone makes a compelling argument for a yurt-dwelling existence. Hawaii's weather makes it feasible. Maybe relaxing permit requirements would encourage more yurts...yeah right. Living in a tent isn't such a crazy option here. Now just gotta talk the wife into it.

[chip]

Hello,
In a previous post it was said that the way the island is formed over a period of time it will all get covered over again and again. I just hope it is a slow flow so i can get out of the way before it hits my land and or structure. these lataest 1.5 mile openings is probably the start of what is to come. So what are people(residents,buyers, sellers gonna do?)
I am a long time visitor of the Islands and can only hope the trades dont die off and vog is a minimal while i am there. 1 mile per month right now, i hope people in the way dont get hurt and forced off the island....



Edited by - chip on 10/12/2007 08:35:14

[chip]

Hello,
Just thinking over the last couple of ideas, that even if you set up a minimal high and dry moveable structure w, sewage disposal, water catch solar/and electric your garden and all. You are still gonna lose on infrastructure fairly substantial so its alot to think hard about.

[Bob Orts]

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Those who don’t think lava diversion is feasible have stated that it's the risk of living in an active volcano zone and they have come to terms with it and what happens happens. Those who want government to get involved and do what it takes to keep their private land protected also have a valid viewpoint.

So, let's assume the state and county does decide to do something to protect property.
1. What would anyone suggest?
2. What environmental impact will it create?
3. Could we live with some large man made barrier if needed?
4. Will those who directly benefit be willing to pay the cost of the project?
5. Would you be willing to accept the need for not one, but possibly many of these things throughout the district?
6. Would you be willing to have one next door to your property?
7. Would you be willing to give up your property if it saves someone else’s property?

I'll start:
1. A BIG channel dug into the earth with a BIG earthen barrier on the opposite side from Hwy 11 straight to the sea.
2. It will require an EIS, and I’m sure every environmental group and many residents will go ballistic and sue.
3. I can live with it so long as I don’t see it, but if I can see it, I want the government to mitigate the view with trees and foliage.
4. They should foot the entire cost since they benefit from trying to harness the natural order of things.
5. One probably will not do it so several will definitely be needed.
6. Not next door, can't it go down the street?
7. Heck No! Take someone else’s property. My land and my rights are so much more valuable and important.

[missydog1]

it would never happen as a planned project. If it ever came about it would be emergency response, no EIS, done under mass adrenaline.

In the case of Hilo being threatened, it would happen way up the Saddle Road, and I doubt any group would have a cow over it.

For Puna, it sure could make for some hard choices, because they wouldn't start until it was virtually certain to cover 130 ... JMHO

[Lee G]

I make it a point to strike up a conversation with those who just got off one of the Helicopter tours of the volcano
whenever I get the chance, I figuire it's more up to date then the county website. What I've heard over the last few days is that the lava is flowing very fast maybe 30 mph but is going nowhere just dumping out in a vast wasteland of old lava field.
For now things are good for us and I pray it stays this way or goes back to the sea.

[Kelena]

Lee, that's a great idea --talking to the folks who helicopter out to the lava. The HVO site is terse, cryptic, cautious and really doesn't give as complete a picture as I would like.

[NanawaleJulie]

Thanks for the agreements. It is too bad there isn't a way to divert it's flow out the way that has already been destroyed, to the ocean. I don't know enough about it, but boy that would be great.



Edited by - nanawalejulie on 10/13/2007 23:45:22

[Rob L]

Yes, the language in the HVO website sounds as if it were drafted by a lawyer, but the map is great. I always check for a new map to see what has happened. The "images" are also fantastic and I use them as my screen savers.

Aloha,
Rob L

[haoleboy]

Before we start thinking about diverting lava to the ocean, shouldn't we have an Environmental Impact Study? I'm no expert, but I think we should know whether the lava might harm the marine environment.

Aloha
Richwhiteboy

“More harm was done in the 20th century by faceless bureaucrats than tyrant dictators.”
- Dennis Prager