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it always comes down to gates and fences, once a few people buy up property surrounding a great spot, they want it for themselves, and soon they start coming up with(sometimes valid)excuses why they want to keep out the people.i understand the part about it being accessed by a private road, but most subdivisions in puna are private roads,so were're all in the same boat as far as that's concerned. i haven't been down there for awhile, but it seems like there is one main road in and then it turns into a rocky road, how does the traffic destroy the paved part? maybe a possible solution would be to put up a donation box? when i lived in the northwest there was a great beach on the columbia which the access road was owned by a farmer and he simply put up a $1 donation box which everyone gladly paid to drive on his road. if he would have put up a gate it would have been torn down anyway so it was a good solution for both sides. aloha
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IMHO, a resource as unique and valuable as the Waiopea area should be protected AND accessible. Perhaps the state or county should take over the maintenance of the access road, if that is the main issue. Then again, that would set a precedent for public interest in private subdivision roads that the politicians in Hilo would find scary, so it probably won't happen. Hanauma Bay on Oahu restricts the number of vehicles allowed to park to a figure commensurate with the number of people the park can reasonably support. Whatever happens, I hope we do not tolerate the restriction of access to property owners.
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Just as a note:
I asked a member of the board of the association, if I can join, AND pay dues since we as "renters" do not pay dues but do use the roads, I was told very bluntly that non-owners may not participant (although the Association was set up as a 501 © 3 non-profit).
In Hawaiian Acres, the HARC allowed non-owners to join and pay dues as a donation but set up membership so that owners made the decisions but non-owners could also have a voice and attend meetings.
-Cat
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That donation box is a good idea. It would last there for 30 minutes. Stolen. Money AND box too.
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Bumping this because it was just referenced in sbaker's post.
Whatever happened to this proposal?
I sublet one of the old duplexes fronting the tidepools (and the parking) this summer, for a month, which gave me lots of opportunity to watch the traffic and the visitors.
There were surveyors working across the street and at some point meeting with the County (right below my lanai, so I noticed it) apparently about a water meter location. I doubt it was for that large parcel though, but had to be for something makai of Wai Opae, as all the mauka side parcels are built there.
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There is new construction beginning on the tidepool at the beginning of the "parkign area".
I have put a call into Larry Brown to see how that project got approved. it should have a 40' setback from the high tide (and that would be the 3.0 tidemark), or have a variance request. As far as I can tell as of Friday, no one knows nothing. (Exactly the double negative I intended!)
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The residents of Vacationland may have legitimate concerns about road maintenance. There are also disrectful visitors who will leave rubbish behind. These are problems faced by other neighborhoods as well.
The real threat to the Waiopea Ponds however, are the many older homes in the area with substandard septic systems. When we have those occaisional heavy rains the systems overflow into the ponds (they're only a couple of feet above sea level, if at all).
The state has signs warning of high bacteria levels and pollution. I don't believe these are caused by visitors to the area, but by non-point source pollution such as pesticide and herbicide run off, and the number of sewage systems at sea level.
I personally wouldn't swim there, or at the warm ponds. I go in a few times a week at Pohoiki, but always shower and rinse my ears afterwards with alcohol/5% glycerin. Thanks for bringing this thread forward as I missed it's original incarnation.
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The State pays for a guard to be there during holidays when traffic is heavy...he even had an easy up to keep outta the sun. So, seems like they should be paying for the upkeep somewhat - also I'm thinking if this is a protected area doesn't that fall under State or Federal funding?
Carrie
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There is new construction beginning on the tidepool at the beginning of the "parkign area".
Cat that must be the same as what I saw ... I was staying right past where the road turns and just before the parking. This was in late July.
It's a running joke with those who know me that any place I move, I'll no sooner get settled than someone will break ground on an adjacent property ... (has happened to me at five different places on this island and it's not that funny to always live next door to construction noise). So, hey, it's probably my fault it got approved. ;-)
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The residents of Vacationland may have legitimate concerns about road maintenance... quote:
I never exactly understood though, why putting rocks on the side of the road back on our streets helps? We are a 5 min walk from the ponds. All the road committee did was annoy people like Seaside Bob who said - I have a right to parking in front of my own house for visitors - and then he moves the rocks.
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The real threat to the Waiopea Ponds however, are the many older homes in the area with substandard septic systems. When we have those occaisional heavy rains the systems overflow into the ponds (they're only a couple of feet above sea level, if at all)...
This I completely agree with. I spoke with Ron Nickles extensively since many of the projects I work with are in Kapoho. Although he says the sewer line is so far in the future - no new home in Kapoho should go in with cesspool or septic. It should be aerobic at the very minimum for new construction. My other thought is that DOH should say "if you want to remodel you must upgrade to a aerobic system from a (usually) cesspool". But then IMHO no one should be putting in cesspools anywhere on the island, although Ron says that septic isnt that much better.
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