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Inter-Island Airfare alert
#11
I worked for several years for a Major Airline in Phoenix. Mesa Airlines has done commuter flights into places that major airlines could not be bothered to go. Small airports in EVERY state on the Mainland. As a result of a commuter partnership with Mesa, our ability to provide service to customers in hundreds of smaller venues (like Grand Junction, Colorado) was possible. I have friends that work for Mesa and are happy doing so.

The hard work of an entire company and its dedicated employees cannot be judged solely by the actions of an executive with a social problem.

My husband and I missed a flight last year from Hilo that would connect us to our flight in HNL and take us home (now we live in Puna) to Arizona. The missed flight was due to a Hawaiian Airlines employee misquoting us the departure time of the flight. No other flights but a flight with Aloha would get us to HNL in time to catch our PHX flight. Aloha gladly helped by charging us $175 EACH one-way to HNL! I wrote them a letter and they completely ignored it. However, when I wrote to Hawaiian Airlines about their employee, they did call me immediately and sent us vouchers and did all they could to repair the financial damage they caused.

"What you do speaks so loudly, I can't hear what you say..."

Carrie

If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion. ~Dalai Lama
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#12
Companies, in every industry, have been discounting prices to increase market share, since time began. This is our Free Enterprise System. And yes, all public companies are in business to increase returns to their shareholders. I am thankful every day as I see my 401K increase in value.

Sometimes the consumer benefits from unrealistic low rates. Damn, hate it when that happens. And yes the rates will go up as soon as the competing companies are able to implement raises. Sometimes some of the competitors will sell out or drop out. Again, this is part of our free enterprise system.

If the rates get too high, guess what? someone else will enter the market, the cycle re-occur, and rates drop.

I for one am happy to see the system working.



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#13
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The hard work of an entire company and its dedicated employees cannot be judged solely by the actions of an executive with a social problem.


The impression is that that the Mesa executive who "lost" Aloha's paperwork was not possessed by any social problem, but perhaps a dirty trick problem.

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If the rates get too high, guess what? someone else will enter the market, the cycle re-occur, and rates drop.


So if the Hawaiian/Aloha duopoly is any example, we'll get a year or two of cheap rates and then decades of whatever the new duopoly wants to charge. Until, of course, another, bigger fish with deeper pockets gives another quick ride of cheapness and then presumably more decades of being at their mercy. Too bad the emphasis can't be on providing excellent service without the unlimited overhead of feeding unearned income accounts.

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#14
capitalistic pigs.

So, what can WE do?


Carrie

If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion. ~Dalai Lama

Edited by - Carolann R on 10/24/2007 13:10:34
Carrie

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#15
It's been said from the start in the industry that Go's intentions are not benevolent after achieving the demise of Aloha. Seems clear that inter-island fares will rise when the contest is done.

Bob makes an important point about the necessity to actually profit from the provision of service. Neither of our pre-Go airlines has been making much (if any) profit for decades. Might want to keep that in mind when you take your seat in Airplanes that require maintenance, parts, and qualified (read adequately compensated) crewmembers to get you there alive

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#16
Just some random thoughts.
Their passenger load factor isn’t as impressive as one would think considering their cheap fares. They are suspending, canceling and eliminating routes on the mainland. They appear to be establishing a maintenance program and facility above what the islands really calls for. If all the other airlines have said the Hawaiian interisland market isn’t viable due to high cost. That market analyst says both Aloha & Hawaiian are really charging what it cost to operate. So, why is Hawaii so important?

I think its to get us to pay for Shenzhen? But what does everyone else think?

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#17
Fascinating. Maybe Dubai?

Carrie

If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion. ~Dalai Lama
Carrie

http://www.carrierojo.etsy.com
http://www.vintageandvelvet.blogspot.com

"Freedom has a scent like the top of a newborn baby's head..." U2
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#18
I've heard that Aloha air is a subsidiary of United, But i don't know if that's correct?

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#19
United owns a minority stake in Aloha, but no one is quite sure just how much.

John Dirgo, R, ABR, e-PRO
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John Dirgo, R, PB, EcoBroker, ABR, e-PRO
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#20
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....If all the other airlines have said the Hawaiian interisland market isn’t viable due to high cost...



Why did USAirways come into the Hawaiian market recently then.

And did any one see the A380 hoopla yesterday? That is one big fat airplane.
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