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Learn a trade. A real trade, like car maintenance, barbering/hairdressing, cooking, baking, teaching, etc.... Get really good at it while you pay your dues like everyone else. Stop expecting instant gratification. Practice high business standards. Make a name for yourself. Become self employed. No employee ever makes the same kind of money they can make as a business owner.
"Never use a large word when a diminutive one will suffice."
Edited by - lotus on 12/13/2007 20:28:04
"How do you know i am mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the cat "or you wouldnt have come here."
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Not sure about F.O.B.'s ??
Free university? Yep, for sure.
Anybody in Hawaii who can demonstrate -- before enrollment and throughout attendance -- that they can do the work, should be able to attend the UH campus nearest to their legal residence, no tuition, no loans. The best financial aid ever is Work-Study -- up to 20 hours a week on campus doing basic stuff that keeps the place operating day to day.
James Weatherford, Ph.D.
15-1888 Hialoa
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FOB's ... Fresh Off the Boat (Students)
A somewhat derogative term for foreign exchange students.
However, if there willing to pay the tuition to get an education here in Hawaii.... Jack it up more then we already do so, so that local kids can go for free.
(I know I'll hear cr@p for using the term)
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not being from the island, but understanding the loss of youth because of lack of employment, I feel the same. Too be honest if I were a kid again and wanted to go to school it would be a technical program, One that could not be taken away through the tech field. Ie: Electrician, plumber. these are fields that will not go away with technology. al
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I would like to see more technical programs in the community college. There are so many possibilites but they have to leave and go to Oahu to take the courses. How about pharmacy techs,medical assistants,dental hygenists and more trade courses. Often these jobs are a starting point for kids to go further while being able to make a decent living.Also I think we need to reach more kids when they are younger by mentoring and tutoring in elementary and middle schools.We need to show them the value of education and the possibilities that it opens for them.I think free university is great but we need to prepare them to go to college
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"technical programs in the community college"
CC's are the step-children of the UH system.
"Free tuition at the nearest UH system campus to a resident's legal residence" includes CC's, of course.
Hawaii CC was the first civilian post-secondary institution I enrolled in (1974) after military. Our oldest son completed the 2-year program there (2006).
Community Collges rock!
Council Member Emily Naeole (herself, a former HCC student) is asking around if people would be interested in Community College courses in Pahoa. Gotta admit, that's interesting!
James Weatherford, Ph.D.
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Aline, with the new Pharmacology program at UH Hilo, they are actively looking to add a Pharm/tech program....(either UHH or HCC/UHH labs)
If you haven't seen the recent growth at the Univerisity, it is amazing. They are really investing in adding new programs, student facilities & next spring they are starting the construction on a state of the art Chemistry/Astronomy lab building
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UH has some very good scholarships & work study programs....besides the University is VERY reasonable, 20 hours of University of the least paying work would more than cover the tuition.... VERY, VERY reasonable tuition!
There are also many programs for repayment of tuition...
Hubby also added some career ideas:
welder $30-$65/hr
sheet metal $25+/hr
electrician $30+/hr
(all positions are in demand)
all of these have certification courses at HCC... As close as Puna is to the University system, it is very posible to get on track with good paying positions... and the tuition! the deal of the Island!
I dont know if our hanai son has missed the boat but he does have a university job (20 hours a week) - makes about $17/hr - about $1000 after taxes a month, student loan for tuition, and and still we have to subsidize occassionally. $1000 - take out car/gas/ins/rent/food and it ther eisnt much left. He is in a grad program too. Just a few months left!! Also at this point, although people have pointed to oh so many jobs on the East side, so far he has found only two positions open in Hilo in his field with quite a few applicants.
Lotus - you also have a very good point!!
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Maybe I see things differently, but I believe the opportunities are endless here. The thing that is missing is the entrepreneur spirit. All we hear about is free this or free that...what is that telling the kids? Socialism doesn't work, it never has and wont until this world goes through some major changes. Teach them how to succeed, show them what it takes, give them the tools and the vision. Obviously there are some who won't be able to take care of themselves, the sick and the weak, and we all need to do our part to help them, but most of these kids can do it. They can succeed. Also by success I DONT mean become rich. It may include that for some, but to me that just adds greater responsiblity to one's life. Success to me is to live a happy, selfsuficient, clean life and have a great family. Think about what you would want someone to say at your funeral.
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Aloha Daniel,
"Opportunities"? Definitely?
"... entrepreneur spirit..."?
Yep, necessary, but not sufficient.
Is "socialism" the problem? No, not any more nor less than the presence or absence of something equally obtuse, "capitalism."
"All we hear about is free...Teach them how to succeed, show them what it takes."
Yes, and "free" education means the children/families do not have to spend/borrow $$ to get taught. That is, as you say, "give them the tools and the vision."
... "give" is "free"...
James Weatherford, Ph.D.
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growth for Puna is something that must happen. Growth to go alongside with the Puna population explosion. But the community needs to be selective with choices. Even as a HPP resident, I can see the need for a police sub station, perhaps even a larger firehouse too. A health clinic would be a real plus. But these are all things one would have in a "perfect world". But the last thing Kea'au or Pahoa Town needs is more fast food clip joints and other BS businesses in and around Puna. Isn't it bad enough that Kea'au has a Micky D's, and Pahoa Town has 7-11 Store? Puna doesn't need these Industrial strength fast food businesses, anymore than we need Hurricane!
I even hate the thought that people are even trying to make Puna's version of "Track homes",here. That stuff needs to stay on the Westside. I mean isn't that why Waikaloa was developed? 
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