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HPP road s!@#@
Daniel went to the HPP board meeting- got some promises, some lies, and some excuses. That's about all we get for our road fees.. And that for over 14 years in HPP? Hmm... Should I be extending a word of gratitude? Or should I be wondering where all that money is being allocated? Enough with the in the future paving particular roads- my car is about to have some realexpensive issues because there is a serious bathtub size pothole on the corner of 5th and paradise. "Hello? Is anybody out there? Just nod if you can hear me.." My cars about to die and you want more money to????????????? Got the bill yesterday. Hard to pay for something that plainly just does not happen. Grade 5th street and I'll be more than happy to send more $$$$$$$.
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Every time I've gone to the hui and asked for my road to be graded/filled it was done within 2 weeks.
The last time it was fixed was a few months ago, right before the rains (which of course washed all the work away in a couple of days).
The road has been terrible for months now and I am very glad the road crew has the sense not to waste our money to fix it when its just gonna get washed away.
I went in last week (seeing as though the rains have kinda slowed) and they already had my road on their list to be fixed after they get to a few others.
So thank you hpp road crew!
Anybody who thinks 12 mil is gonna pave all our roads in hpp is just out of touch with reality. Try looking into the "little bit of paving" fiasco of Paradise drive. That will give you an indication of how far the money goes. I'd say we'd be lucky to get all the streets they have earmarked paved.
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Realizing that 12 million will not pave our roads- What about the grating- Uh don't you thing they should respond when more than 3 people have given the hint about a particular problem EX: the ditch at the end of 5th and Paradise? OK Punamom, whom seems all satisfied with the timely and efficient response you've gotten from the HUI road crew people, and the delegation of our funds..How many times have you payed for a re-alignment of your tires or a bent radials? How many times have you had to replace your shocks, struts, realign your tires? I'll tell you, I am a conscientiuos driver, and I pay more in car repair than I believe I should have to with the proper care given to our roads.
Mei
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It sounds like HPP could use some competant volunteers and planners. Would you (mei) or Pohaku consider running for the board of directors?
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I'm not minimalizing the issue of poorly maintained unpaved roads, but I don't consider the worst HPP roads I've experienced as all that bad. I've lived on much worse. You adjust driving speed accordingly. As I just received my increased bill for my two lots, I would like to see the money wisely spent. I reluctantly voted for the paving, as paved is nice, but I would have been happy with the roads remaining as grades. I'm not thrilled by the prospect of having an increased bill just to pave someone elses road. I wouldn't object to having the project canceled. I would like to see some HPP park development and possibly have a police substation built to entice more police presence. Maybe supply them with a small office with printer, phone, internet and a computer with their report forms installed, if possible.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
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quote:
Originally posted by oink
I'm not minimalizing the issue of poorly maintained unpaved roads, but I don't consider the worst HPP roads I've experienced as all that bad. I've lived on much worse. You adjust driving speed accordingly. As I just received my increased bill for my two lots, I would like to see the money wisely spent. I reluctantly voted for the paving, as paved is nice, but I would have been happy with the roads remaining as grades. I'm not thrilled by the prospect of having an increased bill just to pave someone elses road. I wouldn't object to having the project canceled. I would like to see some HPP park development and possibly have a police substation built to entice more police presence. Maybe supply them with a small office with printer, phone, internet and a computer with their report forms installed, if possible.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
I agree that Hpp raods are not the worst experience ever but, really,our road fees should secure a little more drivability, As far as adjusting my speed, uh.. 2 miles an hour enough? It seems that you own to lots but are not having the experience of bumping slowly down them 4-5 times per day to get the kids to school or go to work or whatever. Please do not be offended but, living it and thinking about are two entirely different experiences.
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OH, believe me, I've lived it. Ours used to become impassible without 4X4 and was over a mile long.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Ours are a mile long and they suck so bad and we are billed for it.
Two guys went to the meeting got some promises/lies and excuses.
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We stay HPP 6th.
1) The people complaining, here or elsewhere, must take action rather complain. Put up or shut up.
2) Guaranteed: you run for director in our district with some reasonable solutions in mind and you get 2 votes (one for each lot).
3) Do any of the complainers, or anyone else here, know what the annual road maintenance costs are? And, how that compares to the planned paving?
4) My words are only in defense of rational discussion based on facts rather than the rant this topic has otherwise generated.
James Weatherford, Ph.D.
15-1888 Hialoa
Hawaiian Paradise Park
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Hmm, I didn't think I was ranting. I was saying that I don't have a strong preference, paved or unpaved. If the paving costs are going to be way over what was anticipated, I would prefer unpaved. My unpopular opinion was that, compared to what I've experienced, the roads aren't that bad for grade roads. Yes there will be some dust, but try living on a road that has shellrock on it. It's all a matter of perspective. And when I finally get there, you can bet I will be involved and even run for the board if the current member isn't doing a good job and no one else will take it on.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
