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Certainly good to see the excitement.
The nice thing as well about the change in altitude is that even if the same crops are being grown, the right harvest season is just that much more delayed up the hill, which works well to keep the season longer.
It will take a little working out, but if the attitude is good I don't see how it can't flourish.
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So what would be best to plant at the 1800 foot elevation? Any ideas?
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Mella, it is gardeners heaven! Eden Roc is so named (in my opinion) because everything grows there! The official word is that papayas won't grow but they will. Pineapple and liliquoi and bananas will bloom like crazy. I bet the lettuce will do fine along with green beans and if covered in a greenhouse to keep the bugs out, tomatoes will go crazy. Cherry tomatoes will do great outdoors! Screened from fruit flies zucchini, crook neck squash and summer squash will do well too. Wooo Hoooo!!! So get over here already!
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I think we are going to have plenty of pumpkin squash to share (I think thats what they are called) by June 28th. They are already getting to be larger than a softball size!
Pumpkin Squash Cream Soup
1-2 pumpkin squash. Cut in half / take seeds out / cover with foil and bake for about 1 hr - till soft. Let cool. Pull off skin. Use mixer or hand mash till not chunky. Put in stock pot or similar. Add about 1 cup or so of water. Add garlic, about a tsp or 2 of butter, salt & pepper, pinch of nutmeg, just a pinch of ginger or 1/4 tsp of fresh grated ginger. Let simmer about 20 mins. Add cream or 1/2 & 1/2 -- about 4-8 oz's during last five minutes - or if really decadent skip cream and add 1 block of cream cheese.
All this is not precise because when i make it, it depends on how much squash I use... so I taste till it is perfect!
Do not dispose of seeds - plant somewhere. They seems to like lots of sun and pretty fair amount of water.
(Thank you PunaFarmboy for the first squash that started this prolific squash garden!! And thank you Ms. "D" for tending it!!)
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It is definitely worth a try.
Almost always some extra bananas, even after the chickens get some
White pineapples by hundreds coming in June/July/August/...pau?
Eggs...
We stay HPP 6th.
Neighbors up Volcano way are always pleased to get the bananas and pineapples. They grow some ONO! cabbage and carrots
Real hit and miss thing mostly. But great when it works!
Would a listserve for and ONLY for swapping work?
We go to Maku'u market most Sundays. Buy salad stuff.
(Also get re-used tools and stuff on the back row, and plants.)
I'm a real slacker doing dates and times and places.
...that's why I have yet to organize that beer with Rob and JW -- you guys might oughta just get together, call me and come on over
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wondering? since it is the barter system, how will one know the value of let's say, lettuce? what will a 3 heads of lettuce get you? a dozen eggs? or does it even matter?
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w. james
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By definition, barter should be where you offer me two heads for a dozen eggs, or whatever and I say yes or no.... Sounds like fun to me!!!!
I should have eggs, home baked breads, maybe lettuce and possibly even green beans by the time we get this together.
What a hoot! I love it.
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A suggestion:
I don't know how much we want to get into the straight up barter situation, as that sort of thing can get out of hand, and some are made uncomfortable by the process and I want this to be very inclusive. I would suggest a better way might be to monthly agree on exchange rates for various products, post it, see if anyone really gets worked up about the whole idea, revise if necessary, and work with it. Of course if you simply don't WANT my brussel sprouts, for example, you've got the right to say no, but I think many like the idea of having a basic idea of what their stuff is worth. I don't mind stewarding the process, and it engenders in some ways a local currency, which we might call a "Puna" or some silly such.
For example:
Say one meal sized taro mammy is worth 1 "Puna"
A papaya is declared worth 1 "Puna"
Apple Banana worth 1 "Puna"
A "handful" of Basil spigs worth 6 "Punas"
A loaf of bread worth 2 "Punas"
A dozen eggs worth 1 "Puna"
etc. you've an idea of what you're bringing to the market and what it's worth, and what it might be more or less valuable for you to provide.
Anybody like that idea?
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no brussel sprouts for me. but, i like the value system you've created.
2 heads of lettuce for a dozen eggs--good deal!
malia paha o lohe aku
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"a great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
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And a pakalolo bud is worth how many eggs?
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S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
