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Makuu Market highway improvements
#1
I seems to me that the highway improvements at Makuu Market were completed in record time and, as far as I know, without incident.

My complements to Kahuna Scott and crew.

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#2
Now they need to lock the old entrance and put orange cones out so people use the new one. The traffic was still messed up the last time We drove by when the market was open because people were still using the old one. It would work as an exit for right turns only though.

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#3
While I compliment KS and crew.

I know of one vendor that is not happy with the new flow of the traffic as people used to exit her tent on the way home and now the flow of foot traffic is directed in a bit of a different direction.

I'm also a bit concerned about the cost of that little section.

Does anyone have a confirmed price tag of what that little section cost?

I can see the H-130 11 mile project going far beyond the expected $56 Million....

And everything that the H-130 project may end up doing... might make everything that KS crew has done so far obsolete.

Pork? I dunno?

It was a good short term solution to the problem... but at what cost and for how long will it be in place before the H-130 project changes it?

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#4
I recall the budget being published as $650,000. which I was surprised at considering it was serving a one day event (Sunday) for six hours or so. The Makuu Market folks did an outstanding job of gaining the budget item in record time.

Whether there are better and higher priorities for such funding will always be in the eye of the beholder.

Having watched Hwy. 130 undergo a two year construction process to merely add shoulders I am impressed with how quickly the Makuu improvements went.

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#5
Did the Makuu Market pay for the changes? If not, why not?


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#6
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Originally posted by Rob Tucker


Having watched Hwy. 130 undergo a two year construction process to merely add shoulders I am impressed with how quickly the Makuu improvements went.

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I remember the majority of the time was spent digging a drench down the middle of 130 to connect the water lines from Paradise Drive to Pahoa.

We asked ourselves over and over again, why are they not adding driving lanes?? [:0]
Finally one day while stopped in the traffic jam, I asked one of the guys straightening traffic cones.
He laughed and said "because we will need more work in a few years".

Just like now.. Are they even considering the logical choices?
or just what benefits them?

Weve been trying to get a traffic lights at many of the entrances to our subdivisions for many years (where many of our friends and neighbors have been very seriously hurt or even killed).

How many people got Killed or Seriously Hurt in front of the Makuu Market?
I know its on a dangerous curve but cmon its private property.. right?
Maybe Hawaiian Homelands?
Just goes to show what can happen if you have friends in high places?
Sure seems so to me.

When they decided the Makuu Market was more important for its ONE DAY A WEEK traffic than the dangerous intersections we travel on a daily bases.
Thats the moment I gave up even trying to understand the reasoning and excepted the facts,
"its not what you know"
its
"Who you Know!"

it was just another screw-us-over... bunch of Bull Crap if ya ask me.


On the other hand Kahuna Scotts crew did do a very nice job!!
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#7
It is a very nice job. There are so many valid questions and opinions here. I was surprised at the speed with which it happened. Seems like this kinda job usually takes so much longer. Hoping to see some traffic lights in my lifetime, 'cause still too many accidents and people dying.

Carrie Rojo

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#8
Why is everyone so Hellbent on traffic signals when there is a better way. “ROUNDABOUTS”

I’ll try and tell you why with unproblematic talk. [It’s all about money]

The state has conditioned the people [us] to except the concept of traffic signals. Why, because you have observed them around for years, and yes they do work. A traffic signal is a VERY expensive device and takes LOTS of MONEY to run it and maintain it, not to mention the cost to install one. The commonplace four way intersection may have as many as twenty separate lights to orchestrate traffic and a computer brain that is extremely expensive. If you don’t believe me ask someone that had a collision into one of the brains and had to have their insurance replace it.

The company’s that produce the traffic signals like [Wink-o-Matic] have very large lobbyist within our governance who spread large amounts of money throughout our politicians. The last thing that these people want to hear is the word ROUNDABOUT. Why, you may ask, because they function much better, the maintenance is next to naught and they cost nothing daily to continue to operate.

The work that was done at Maku’u market place was hypothesized to cost $600,000 and was performed in record time, so maybe it cost less. I do believe that a roundabout would cost less than that at each intersection that comes into play. Mind you I’m only talking about the cost of construction and not property purchase. Please keep in mind all of the other “pork fat” that it cost to get anything performed thru the state. The state has refused to listen to any revealent information about roundabouts and the lack of continuing to spend money is there rationality [without telling you that]. Ounce again [it’s all about money] but in this case it’s about not spending to an adequate degree. Hey folks you all voted these people into office and their indoctrinate forcibly is working just as they have planed. You hear very little about roundabouts and lots about traffic signals. As I said to start with, yes they do work [traffic signals] but roundabouts are better and cost “LOTS” less.

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#9
Agree - nice quick and fast job done. Just curious why the "sleep ruts" or grooves of former roadway were left in the now current lane of traffic? Sure makes for interesting travel...smooth nice new pavement and then bam! Ruts in the middle of the road. Guess they are still serving their original intended purporse.
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#10
I shouldn't be so brief. SORRY. I like roundabouts as well. They did several recently where we are from and they work very well. Kids aren't getting killed on their bikes in the neighborhoods where they have them now.

SOMETHING has got to happen though, 'cause it's deadly on the highway.

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