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Factors which embolden & discourage thieves
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12-19-2008, 01:15 PM
Aloha Janet, First the BoD will discuss it and if we feel FoPF has the capacity, we will put a poll out to membership on the subject.
Rob
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12-22-2008, 06:24 AM
Here is an interesting security system suggestion for home and farm, from http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/Guine...ept03.html by Dennis Headley; SPPA Bulletin, 2003, 8(3):8-9. In the meantime, if its bug-eating talent is not enough to recommend it, then perhaps we should consider keeping the guinea fowl as a security system. "No strange person or noise escapes them, and then their screaming is not only effectual, but calculated of itself to frighten off any evilly disposed marauder" (Wright). The final word, however, is accorded to Browne, who, in passing the following judgment reveals that curious combination of admiration and exasperation found in so many writer's voices on the subject of the guinea: "This bird is no great favorite with poultry keepers, in general, but is one of those unfortunate beings, which, from having been occasionally guilty of now and then a trifling fault, has acquired a much worse reputation than it really deserves. Notwithstanding this, it is useful, ornamental, and interesting during life, and a desirable addition to the table, if properly dressed, when dead." Of them Victoria Varga in "Guinea Fowl: Something Different in the Garden" at http://www.homestead.org/Poultry/Victora...eaFowl.htm writes: These normally docile but alert birds have a surprisingly acute awareness of predators within their habitats, and will alert the farmer to any henhouse intrusion, day or night. A distinct and rather operatic call will be sounded upon any strange intrusion. Many Guinea Fowl breeders will attest to their “watchdogs’” ability of being able to distinguish between family members and strange and unfamiliar faces. Guinea Fowl have been used for both pest control and as farm ‘watchdogs’ for decades now, and one of their relatively newer uses has been to the gardener and small crop grower. Guinea Fowl have proven most successful in organically controlling pests by eating most bugs in the garden, while leaving the green foliage virtually untouched. This has garnered the Guinea Fowl not just the praise and welcome of the farmer, but that of the gardener as well. Slugs, bugs, and other thugs are their specialty and Guinea Fowl have demonstrated once again, their versatility and ability to earn a reputation of wonderful uses. Guinea Fowl can be kept either free-ranged, or free-run in the company of other poultry. I remember long ago as a lad nearly having a heart attack or two when Guinea fowl exploded into loud protest as I happened to run all unawares upon a bunch of them pecking at insects amidst tall grass or in the gardens on my great-grandparents' ranch. While usually timid and quiet birds the unholy helluva great din they can make when disturbed --a sort of shrieking cackle-- really is enough to wake the dead. Guinea fowl as a home security system on one acre lots would probably not endear one to one's neighbors, but a flock may perhaps have application on larger spreads. Does anyone know if Guinea fowl are on the "OK for Hawaii" list and already present on the Big Island? Are there local sources from which fertile Guinea fowl eggs (for brooding by a chicken hen) or a breeding pair of Guinea fowl may be purchased? The note at http://hawaii.gov/hdoa/ai/ldc/birds seems to indicate they are OK for import if certified disease-free. ------------------------------------------------------------- FAIR USE NOTICE: This post may contain copyrighted material. Such material is made available for educational purposes, to advance understanding of human rights, democracy, scientific, moral, ethical, and social justice issues, etc. This constitutes a ‘fair use’ of any such copyrighted material as provided for in Title 17 U.S.C. section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond ‘fair use,’ you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. ------------------------------------------------------------- )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." Pres. John Adams, Scholar and Statesman "There's a scientific reason to be concerned and there's a scientific reason to push for action. But there's no scientific reason to despair." NASA climate analyst Gavin Schmidt )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'(
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12-22-2008, 07:54 AM
while I note and appreciate a couple expressions of support for creating a citizen initiated "sting" operation there seems to be a real limit to the support.
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12-22-2008, 08:04 AM
alaskansteven: guinea come up often on craigs list alot here sometimes people dont realize how loud they are and get them, then in a couple of weeks they show back up on craigs...
12-22-2008, 12:36 PM
quote:Have patience please. Although I'm not there yet I will contribute, as it would be nice if the crime rate was reduced prior to my arrival. However, the P.D. doesn't need it for Christmas. How about if we wait until we recover from the Holidays. Pua`a S. FL Big Islander to be.
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12-22-2008, 12:54 PM
I appreciate your support.... I'm just trying to gage the general level prior to a Board of directors meeting in the next week or so.
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12-22-2008, 01:36 PM
Could it be useful to set up an online survey on the question of which options people support (and how much support they would be willing to give in terms of money, hours of direct participation, etc) and then direct everyone in Puna to go "vote" (or indicate their specific preference among the choices offered) at that URL? It seems like there are far more quiet readers than noisy posters on Punaweb; many folks who may feel shy about posting a response here might be willing to go to a survey site, tag the option which most closely matches their feelings on the matter, and click send. SurveyMonkey allows up to 100 responses on its free survey option (and validation can be opted for so one person does not vote repeatedly and skew the results). It might be worth Friends of Puna's Future having a year-round account for putting up all sorts of questions on various issues for Puna-wide consideration and reply at SurveyMonkey or some similar service. The tabulation and graphic display features are quick and nifty; accumulating a data set on local issues via such could prove useful in presenting our case with the police chief, mayor, council and so on. http://www.surveymonkey.com/Home_Pricing.aspx )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." Pres. John Adams, Scholar and Statesman "There's a scientific reason to be concerned and there's a scientific reason to push for action. But there's no scientific reason to despair." NASA climate analyst Gavin Schmidt )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'(
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12-22-2008, 02:39 PM
You always have good thoughtful suggestions Steven. I will take it up with the board next week.
Mahalo, Rob
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