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If enough people get caught by the GPS method then word will get around. And if it doesn't - more crooks will get caught until it does.
Private cameras on a public road, wouldn't that be a can of (legal) worms? Also very doubtful if anyone could be positively identified, especially if they cover up. Possession of the device with the GPS is incriminating in itself.
Oh you shouldn't be worrying. I just a few days Obama will be in office and everything will change and be orderly. Why - because Bush caused all these problems - don't cha know.
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Just a small point of fact: Pahoa has had a dozen video cameras for a few years now. Perhaps someone could find out if they have resulted in one or more arrests. They obviously lack deterrence value.
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Originally posted by JWFITZ
I like cameras as well as they also are capable of enforcing harassment and violence issues as well as property crimes. I think this is an important plus in favor of cameras.
I agree, all be it from a long ways off. The obvious would be to up grade the existing cameras with night vision and if possible add a few more cameras. Throw in an un-armed security guard, in a car for six months and I bet Rudedog may actually be able to sleep at night.
But then we need Rob and his crew to be working the police side because it's one thing to get someone to call.. it's a whole nother animal to get the police to respond. Remember, I'm not that big of a fan of rural law enforcement (anywhere).
Maybe things have changed in Hawaii but..
"they did jump a friend of mine the other day,knocked his front tooth out sucker punching him,tried to get his wallet,he fought bach,they ran,he did call 911,the cops came, he had to argue with them for a 1/2 hr to get them to arrest them
... just seems like the SOS to me. But hey, they did arrest them, but then..
"released to there parent's" IMHO the parents should be held responsible. You know this starts at home.
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One primary point in the GPS program I propose (I will start a new topic on it soon) is that it by-passes the Police and goes straight to the D.A.'s office.
This means that instead of you or I calling the cops and begging them to make an arrest the D.A. calls the cops with a Search Warrant in hand and instructs the Police to make an arrest.
The charge would be possession of stolen goods. Whoever has them. a fence, friends, parents, tweekers.
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i kinda think a combination of cams and gps would make a great case,get'em stealing and get'em selling the goods,,,kinda two birds with one stone......
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I encourage all efforts. Weed and Seed did what they could with government supervision. I prefer citizen driven and funded initiatives and efforts. Once you get county or federal money the project is generally screwed. Some bureaucrat will have to tweak it so they can claim credit for everybody else's work.
There are a couple free lance video guys I've seen on TV who really irritate various low lifes or even cops on the mainland and they risk getting pounded regularly. I admire them quite frankly but do not personally have time to be obsessive on any one topic.
As a bleeding heart I would also like to see improvement in our schools, after school programs for youngsters, things to do besides "hang out". The Pahoa Skate Park was a step in that direction. Our hope was that if we (old folks) showed some respect we might get some back and I believe it works. Somehow I don't think this raft of thefts and break-ins is from the skateboard crowd at all.
In the south the term we used to use was mouth breathers. I guess it's tweekers now.
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I know in Austin they used GPS tracking for short term stings. It seemed like tthey had to have a lot of detail to make it work and stick in that they only did it for a week or so. They did it with Mountain bikes and cars, and it was effective for sure. Also there's the nationwide "lowjack" program that uses GPS tracking.
I know it's a big deal when the police do it. I just don't know if the general public could initiate such a program without the help of local law enforcement. But, like I always say "if you don't go you wont know". I fear the local police there may see it as an insult.
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quote:
Originally posted by rudedogg
what about the hard copies ? credit app's n such
RUDEDOGG
Real estate companies don't take credit applications for loans. I don't know how other companies do it but we do everything digital, we don't have hard copies of anything. We even have digital signatures. If the client is not set up for such, we print the hard copy, have it signed by the client and scan it again as a PDF file.
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Is this something people would have an interest in? http://www.nacop.org/ Citizens on Patrol.
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