02-24-2010, 02:58 PM
I'm confused?
Are you saying that development interest have taken agricultural zones land and rezoned it for commercial use to deny communities the ability to use the land as zoned? If so, I think the opposite impact is true because commercially zoned land would allow these community activities without the need for a SUP or even a use permit. So I don't think that’s what you meant.
Or,
Are you saying that development interest have taken commercially zoned land and rezoned them to agricultural to keep community groups from having a place to operate? If so, as far back as I can see the land has always been agricultural and it's the people (AKA Community) that has skirted the regulations by making it predominantly residential and not agricultural. So I don't think that's what you meant.
Or,
Are you saying that these agricultural lands that the people (AKA community) with full knowledge that there were no services, community groups, or places for non-profits, yet they purchased it anyway, and now expect these thing should be available when they were never there in the first place? If so, the lack of these items were there from the start and if people (AKA community) ignored that reality, that’s a dumb mistake on their part. So I don't think that's what you meant.
I know this is hard to grasp, but the process for a "for profit" entity to get a use or special use permit is harder than for a non-profit. Most of the things non-profits do are allowed under the regulations so long as they don't cross the line.
When non-profits apply for use or special use permits, they know full well what limitations exist, what they are allowed and not allowed to do, what activities will force the County to act, and what needs to be done to expand any provisions of that permit. There is no secret police waiting to pounce on them and suddenly pull a provision out of a hat to everyone’s surprise. Everything is laid out in black and white and these non-profits AGREED to it. So reality is, the County grants greater latitude to these nonprofits community groups above and beyond what any development interest could get.
Now on a side note, I know being on Hawaii things are a bit slow and I assume the news is also very very slow. So as an FYI, the fiscal issues facing Hawaii County, well you won't believe this, but it's happening all over the US. Yes, I kid you not, from Maine to California, from Texas to Montana, from Alaska to Florida. ALL governments are facing fiscal problems. Now, get a load of this, even foreign countries are experiencing the fiscal crunch. I do believe the Hawaii Hilo Tribune has reported this, but who knows, news seem to travel very slowly on Hawaii. But trust me on this, Hawaii County is not standing alone and is in the company of almost every village, town, city, borough, parish, province, county, state and yes, even the federal government.
Are you saying that development interest have taken agricultural zones land and rezoned it for commercial use to deny communities the ability to use the land as zoned? If so, I think the opposite impact is true because commercially zoned land would allow these community activities without the need for a SUP or even a use permit. So I don't think that’s what you meant.
Or,
Are you saying that development interest have taken commercially zoned land and rezoned them to agricultural to keep community groups from having a place to operate? If so, as far back as I can see the land has always been agricultural and it's the people (AKA Community) that has skirted the regulations by making it predominantly residential and not agricultural. So I don't think that's what you meant.
Or,
Are you saying that these agricultural lands that the people (AKA community) with full knowledge that there were no services, community groups, or places for non-profits, yet they purchased it anyway, and now expect these thing should be available when they were never there in the first place? If so, the lack of these items were there from the start and if people (AKA community) ignored that reality, that’s a dumb mistake on their part. So I don't think that's what you meant.
I know this is hard to grasp, but the process for a "for profit" entity to get a use or special use permit is harder than for a non-profit. Most of the things non-profits do are allowed under the regulations so long as they don't cross the line.
When non-profits apply for use or special use permits, they know full well what limitations exist, what they are allowed and not allowed to do, what activities will force the County to act, and what needs to be done to expand any provisions of that permit. There is no secret police waiting to pounce on them and suddenly pull a provision out of a hat to everyone’s surprise. Everything is laid out in black and white and these non-profits AGREED to it. So reality is, the County grants greater latitude to these nonprofits community groups above and beyond what any development interest could get.
Now on a side note, I know being on Hawaii things are a bit slow and I assume the news is also very very slow. So as an FYI, the fiscal issues facing Hawaii County, well you won't believe this, but it's happening all over the US. Yes, I kid you not, from Maine to California, from Texas to Montana, from Alaska to Florida. ALL governments are facing fiscal problems. Now, get a load of this, even foreign countries are experiencing the fiscal crunch. I do believe the Hawaii Hilo Tribune has reported this, but who knows, news seem to travel very slowly on Hawaii. But trust me on this, Hawaii County is not standing alone and is in the company of almost every village, town, city, borough, parish, province, county, state and yes, even the federal government.