07-09-2010, 04:57 AM
My friends who have been together over 30 years and paying tons of money into Social Security. One of them dies, the $ stays with the government because they are denied the right to marry, which is a long established right by the Supreme Court in this country. If they could marry, the surviving spouse could collect social security. That is one of over 1000 federal rights that gay couples are denied. Actually civil unions would not affect any of those unfortunately, but would affect rights within the state.
No same sex humans can reproduce together. Mmmkay? What does that have to do with anything. No sterile opposite sex couple can reproduce together. No opposite sex couple where the woman is post menapausal can reproduce together, etc. Marriage laws (again civil unions fall far short of marriage) have nothing to do with reproduction. As it is 40% of children are born to un married couples and through about 95% of our species' history no children were born to married couples because there was no such thing as marriage. Natural selection has nothing to do whatsoever with this argument. It's like saying, I believe in gravity, therefore robbing banks should be illegal.
No well adjusted person obsesses over the sex lives of others to the point of wanting to deny basic human rights to them. Most people with personality disorders are undiagnosed.
It's irrelevant at this point whether 3 people, 4 brothers etc want some level of civil rights regarding their relationships because there are no such bills/cases working their way through the legislatures/courts that I'm aware of. Laws and precedent regarding marriage in this country are so far based on 2 people, and precendent is that the states have power to regulate them.
Again regarding natural selection. Laws aren't based on natural selection, so again totally irrelevant. If they were, this would be an awful world and disabled people would be actively discriminated against if not specfically eliminated, for example.
No same sex humans can reproduce together. Mmmkay? What does that have to do with anything. No sterile opposite sex couple can reproduce together. No opposite sex couple where the woman is post menapausal can reproduce together, etc. Marriage laws (again civil unions fall far short of marriage) have nothing to do with reproduction. As it is 40% of children are born to un married couples and through about 95% of our species' history no children were born to married couples because there was no such thing as marriage. Natural selection has nothing to do whatsoever with this argument. It's like saying, I believe in gravity, therefore robbing banks should be illegal.
No well adjusted person obsesses over the sex lives of others to the point of wanting to deny basic human rights to them. Most people with personality disorders are undiagnosed.
It's irrelevant at this point whether 3 people, 4 brothers etc want some level of civil rights regarding their relationships because there are no such bills/cases working their way through the legislatures/courts that I'm aware of. Laws and precedent regarding marriage in this country are so far based on 2 people, and precendent is that the states have power to regulate them.
Again regarding natural selection. Laws aren't based on natural selection, so again totally irrelevant. If they were, this would be an awful world and disabled people would be actively discriminated against if not specfically eliminated, for example.