07-29-2010, 09:41 PM
>>> while, we are away working to pay for their social programs, that they will adventually get, leaves us footing the bill
Have you got a figure for how much these social programs give to these people? I think it's miniscule. Although the Social Services bureaucracy must cost quite a bit.
>>> and our homes and property, subject to burgalry, while we are away at work.
>>> When they do not have the basic humanitary needs meet, they do not care who is hurt,
not necessarily, people who were raised to be decent don't turn to be burglars. I have been down and out, and hungry, and I never once thought of breaking into a home.
>>> I think, there is a need for the State to donate land, so, that they can create a community tent city, gardens, kitchens,volunteer programs, so that their basic humane necessity, can be meet.
By doing this, they will at least be proactive, productive, while they are trying to recover.
Good idea, but you propose this as if homeless activists haven't been working for these sorts of things for decades, especially on Oahu. Why not bring some info over on what Hawai'i homeless advocates are doing, instead of just calling for results?
>>> It would also place them in one location, so that they can be monitored.
Sounds too much like a camp for my taste.
You can't lump all the hard up people into one group. People who have recently lost jobs and had homes foreclosed probably have a whole different mentality than people who have been homeless for years due to addiction or mental illness. The first group can really take an opportunity and run with it; the latter need help, but realistically they need more to turn it around.
It's all very well to call out for change, but I am impatient with all this talk. This is not a new problem; people are already fighting on this front. More volunteering to help, less talk ...
Have you got a figure for how much these social programs give to these people? I think it's miniscule. Although the Social Services bureaucracy must cost quite a bit.
>>> and our homes and property, subject to burgalry, while we are away at work.
>>> When they do not have the basic humanitary needs meet, they do not care who is hurt,
not necessarily, people who were raised to be decent don't turn to be burglars. I have been down and out, and hungry, and I never once thought of breaking into a home.
>>> I think, there is a need for the State to donate land, so, that they can create a community tent city, gardens, kitchens,volunteer programs, so that their basic humane necessity, can be meet.
By doing this, they will at least be proactive, productive, while they are trying to recover.
Good idea, but you propose this as if homeless activists haven't been working for these sorts of things for decades, especially on Oahu. Why not bring some info over on what Hawai'i homeless advocates are doing, instead of just calling for results?
>>> It would also place them in one location, so that they can be monitored.
Sounds too much like a camp for my taste.
You can't lump all the hard up people into one group. People who have recently lost jobs and had homes foreclosed probably have a whole different mentality than people who have been homeless for years due to addiction or mental illness. The first group can really take an opportunity and run with it; the latter need help, but realistically they need more to turn it around.
It's all very well to call out for change, but I am impatient with all this talk. This is not a new problem; people are already fighting on this front. More volunteering to help, less talk ...