02-23-2011, 04:55 AM
quote:Wow, did the comparison to being left-handed really go over anyone's head? Apparently so. Let me spell it out. People are born a certain way, and sometimes they are in the minority, and it would be absurd to deny anyone the same basic civil rights based on how they were born. Personally I would argue that people shouldn't be discriminated against based on their choices which don't harm others, such as the choice to be a certain religion. The percentage of people born left-handed is similar to the percentage that would be openly gay, lesbian, or bisexual in a world without any bigotry or social repurcussions for doing so. Discriminating based on sexual orientation is really as bizarre and unjustifiable as discriminating against people because they are left-handed. And interestingly, religion actually has been used against left-handed people, and many have been coerced into trying to pretend they are really right-handed. And that is as insane as coercing gays into trying to be straight. To me, anyone uncomfortable with gays, or making any sort of argument that they should not receive equal treatment under the law is as lunatic fringe crazy as saying left-handed people should not have government recognition of relationships they're in.
Originally posted by csgray
OLG,
Maybe you are being just a little too literal and missed the whole point of the left handedness posts, satire is easy to misread sometimes. Perhaps being a relative newcomer and not knowing who the players were on that set of posts explains how you could interpret it as "making light and uncomfortable with gays and lesbians gaining rights." But I thought it was pretty funny satire, and I am one of the more literal people around and usually the last one to get a joke.
Carol
My phony argument that recognizing left-handed relationships would require recognizing relationships with jars of pickles was alluding to people like Savu Savu who make phony arguments like "my relationship with my goat should be recognized" and shows 1) they are lying and making a phony argument and there is no movement to recognize this hypothetical relationship that doesn't exist in any meaningful and measurable way, and 2) they have apparently no understanding of civil rights, the constitution, laws, love, humanity, etc in this country so their absurd phony arguments are about as valid as someone claiming they have a relationship with a jar of pickles. So thanks for Savu Savu for proving my point.