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Mauna Kea, the Sacred
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Originally posted by silverpenny10

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe what anthonyf meant by "individualistic", is divisiveness, separatism. We live in a society where me and mine supercedes the good of the whole. We're taught to "win" at any cost. We tend to have tunnel vision and are unable to see the broad picture. We think we are so much more intelligent with our gizmos that we can out do nature. Really??? Technology is fine, but at what COST? Irradiate the masses with EMF's and destroy bird's migratory/homing system so we can have better cell phone reception and get broadcast from asia? No thanks, I'll stick with land lines. Spray and fumigate pesticides, herbicides, fungicides on tens of thousands of acres and allow it to drift and run into the oceans so we MIGHT have access to biofuel? No thanks, I'll reduce use, walk and bike, use public transportation, hitch hike. Drink water laden with toxic flouride? No thanks, we were lied to. Eat GMO frankenfoods that are bigger, shinier, prettier that are manipulated, processed in fancy boxes, cans, packages? No thanks, I'll grow and raise my own REAL food. Free from preventable diseases caused by choking on pollution from pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, chem trails, GMO's, flouride, vaccines, and the endless list of assaults? We can only hope and dream. Desecrate more pristine land to study the stars and planets so that when we poison and burn up this planet beyond repair, those with the $billions and $trillions made from selling pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, chem trails, GMO's, flouride, vaccines will have a place to go do it all over again. Of this I'm sure: it WON'T me or you.

Technology is great. The big question is: what is the price to pay? I'm not talking about money.


Thanks for helping translate for the not so well read here silverpenny. I thought there were adults here but having to explain every single word I use is tiring.

I, me, me, mine. That is all I see in Puna. Go into the shops and they treat you with suspicion first and then extort you because they can. Look at the land all all you see is "KAPU!"

Technology, modern "comfort", and medicine depend on the powerful lever of cheap oil. Things like the telescope will be the first to be cut. These people do not see what is coming and the importance of preparing for the new way of living.

And then we have climate change, do you any of you know how it has already changed the islands? I did not realize it until talking with some farmers, but they see it. Diseases, unpredicable climate.
http://www.truth-out.org/1215093

Well, all I can do is keep talking and ignore thouse who infuse doubt into certainty to keep their delusions alive.
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Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by silverpenny10 - 02-23-2011, 05:14 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by MarkP - 02-23-2011, 05:44 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by PaulW - 02-23-2011, 06:31 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 02-23-2011, 08:32 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Greg - 02-24-2011, 01:47 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Peter Epperson - 02-24-2011, 03:51 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by macuu222 - 02-24-2011, 04:37 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by robguz - 02-24-2011, 04:40 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Kelena - 02-24-2011, 05:25 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by GinaB - 02-24-2011, 05:30 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Kelena - 02-24-2011, 06:06 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by JerryCarr - 02-24-2011, 06:21 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by wino - 02-24-2011, 07:21 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by LastTangoInPuna - 02-24-2011, 07:59 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Greg - 02-24-2011, 08:05 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Orchidlandguy - 02-24-2011, 09:01 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Orchidlandguy - 02-24-2011, 09:07 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Greg - 02-24-2011, 12:39 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 02-24-2011, 02:01 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 02-24-2011, 02:21 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by David M - 02-24-2011, 03:07 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Kelena - 02-24-2011, 04:07 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 02-24-2011, 04:21 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by dmbwest - 02-24-2011, 09:36 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by punaticbychoice - 02-25-2011, 03:39 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by punaticbychoice - 02-25-2011, 03:45 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-25-2011, 12:57 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Kelena - 02-25-2011, 03:31 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-25-2011, 04:03 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Greg - 02-25-2011, 04:29 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Orchidlandguy - 02-25-2011, 05:50 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by PaulW - 02-25-2011, 08:10 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Funkstopper - 02-25-2011, 08:47 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 02-25-2011, 08:49 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 02-25-2011, 08:52 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Funkstopper - 02-25-2011, 08:58 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-26-2011, 02:35 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Kelena - 02-26-2011, 03:29 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-26-2011, 03:42 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-26-2011, 03:44 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Aaron S - 02-26-2011, 05:27 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-26-2011, 06:32 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by PaulW - 02-26-2011, 07:07 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-26-2011, 08:24 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Greg - 02-26-2011, 08:30 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by PaulW - 02-26-2011, 08:54 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-26-2011, 09:32 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by csgray - 02-26-2011, 09:39 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Royall - 02-26-2011, 09:40 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by PaulW - 02-26-2011, 10:02 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by missydog1 - 02-26-2011, 10:17 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Orchidlandguy - 02-26-2011, 10:55 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Carey - 02-26-2011, 12:28 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by silverpenny10 - 02-26-2011, 02:09 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by silverpenny10 - 02-26-2011, 02:18 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by PaulW - 02-26-2011, 02:47 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 02-26-2011, 03:35 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by missydog1 - 02-26-2011, 04:13 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by MarkP - 02-26-2011, 04:22 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 02-26-2011, 07:49 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by PaulW - 02-26-2011, 08:04 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 02-26-2011, 08:29 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by missydog1 - 02-26-2011, 08:56 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-27-2011, 03:04 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-27-2011, 03:17 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by macuu222 - 02-27-2011, 03:46 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-27-2011, 04:02 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by wino - 02-27-2011, 04:30 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by rusty h - 02-27-2011, 04:38 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by robguz - 02-27-2011, 04:56 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by mdd7000 - 02-27-2011, 05:09 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Royall - 02-27-2011, 05:29 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-27-2011, 06:16 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by missydog1 - 02-27-2011, 09:27 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Orchidlandguy - 02-27-2011, 11:14 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by mdd7000 - 02-27-2011, 11:19 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Rob Tucker - 02-27-2011, 11:26 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by missydog1 - 02-27-2011, 12:50 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by mdd7000 - 02-27-2011, 01:21 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by silverpenny10 - 02-27-2011, 01:45 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by missydog1 - 02-27-2011, 02:12 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by mdd7000 - 02-27-2011, 02:14 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Greg - 02-27-2011, 04:02 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 02-27-2011, 05:16 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by PaulW - 02-27-2011, 06:00 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by DaVinci - 02-27-2011, 06:23 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by DanielP - 02-28-2011, 03:31 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by anthonyf - 02-28-2011, 05:58 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Greg - 02-28-2011, 10:52 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Orchidlandguy - 02-28-2011, 03:02 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by mdd7000 - 02-28-2011, 04:55 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Orchidlandguy - 03-01-2011, 03:55 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Rob Tucker - 03-01-2011, 04:18 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by silverpenny10 - 03-01-2011, 09:20 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Bob Orts - 03-01-2011, 09:27 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by DanielP - 03-01-2011, 09:43 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by silverpenny10 - 03-01-2011, 09:43 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Kelena - 03-01-2011, 02:21 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by JerryCarr - 03-01-2011, 02:33 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by freestate - 03-01-2011, 03:08 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Kelena - 03-01-2011, 03:46 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by konadave - 03-01-2011, 04:05 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Orchidlandguy - 03-01-2011, 04:23 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by PaulW - 03-01-2011, 04:25 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by konadave - 03-01-2011, 04:42 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by rusty h - 03-01-2011, 04:53 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 03-01-2011, 06:40 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by JerryCarr - 03-01-2011, 07:02 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 03-01-2011, 07:35 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by punaticbychoice - 03-01-2011, 11:01 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Bullwinkle - 03-02-2011, 02:33 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by Ola - 03-03-2011, 06:59 AM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by TomK - 03-04-2011, 06:59 PM
RE: Mauna Kea, the Sacred - by punaticbychoice - 03-05-2011, 05:29 AM

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