10-03-2011, 03:24 PM
Ok, do you know how you all feel about me? that feeling? Try to image how it feels when Americans say "get over it" when it comes to Hawaiian issues. I can't remember how many times I've heard that in my life. Well thats what it feels like.
As far as being open minded, so far KathyH you've been a good sport. You took the time to research and even make suggestions. Notice how many open minding people are willing to agree even just a little with some of your suggestions. Pretty much zero right?
No matter how issues are brought out most people have their minds made up no matter what. Only truly open minded people will find some common ground.
That is the problem with issues such as this. Very few open minded individuals are willing to look at the whole picture. They see only what they want to see and attempt to dismiss others. Many use elegant words and friendly dialect
and say they are open minded but inside they are not.
They dismiss our rights written in our State constitution that our government must provide us with game and hunting in our public lands. Our public lands belong to all of us and if some of us want to hunt game, then don't we have that right?
Its all about balance. The mountain is big enough to provide habitats for endangered plants and animals and allow some areas for upland hunting. They can fence off 25 miles of lava in PTA with 8 foot high chain link fence but they can't fence
off an area for the sheep to live in.
They say, " look at the map, theres 10,000 acres of hunting area and the hunter are complaining". When you go to the area you see that 80 to 90% of it is inhabitable. No food or water, mostly lava fields. So on paper things look good
but in reality its not.
The invasive species gang, indoctrinated biologist and native species fanatics want it only their way. Two years ago I watched them do the palila bird count. For two weeks the mountain was socked in with heavy clouds and fog. One couldn't see
30 feet from the vehicle. They came back with the bird count and the numbers were down 40%. This data was marked as official. Can you hostly believe these people? no recount on a better day or anything like that. Just push their agenda through at what every the cost.
Now their a pushing to kill off the rest of the sheep or as much as they can by Christmas. That way when they do the bird count again, ON A SUNNY DAY they can say "see look theres more birds already!" you watch and see!
Call me what you may... but I've just about seen it all.
As far as being open minded, so far KathyH you've been a good sport. You took the time to research and even make suggestions. Notice how many open minding people are willing to agree even just a little with some of your suggestions. Pretty much zero right?
No matter how issues are brought out most people have their minds made up no matter what. Only truly open minded people will find some common ground.
That is the problem with issues such as this. Very few open minded individuals are willing to look at the whole picture. They see only what they want to see and attempt to dismiss others. Many use elegant words and friendly dialect
and say they are open minded but inside they are not.
They dismiss our rights written in our State constitution that our government must provide us with game and hunting in our public lands. Our public lands belong to all of us and if some of us want to hunt game, then don't we have that right?
Its all about balance. The mountain is big enough to provide habitats for endangered plants and animals and allow some areas for upland hunting. They can fence off 25 miles of lava in PTA with 8 foot high chain link fence but they can't fence
off an area for the sheep to live in.
They say, " look at the map, theres 10,000 acres of hunting area and the hunter are complaining". When you go to the area you see that 80 to 90% of it is inhabitable. No food or water, mostly lava fields. So on paper things look good
but in reality its not.
The invasive species gang, indoctrinated biologist and native species fanatics want it only their way. Two years ago I watched them do the palila bird count. For two weeks the mountain was socked in with heavy clouds and fog. One couldn't see
30 feet from the vehicle. They came back with the bird count and the numbers were down 40%. This data was marked as official. Can you hostly believe these people? no recount on a better day or anything like that. Just push their agenda through at what every the cost.
Now their a pushing to kill off the rest of the sheep or as much as they can by Christmas. That way when they do the bird count again, ON A SUNNY DAY they can say "see look theres more birds already!" you watch and see!
Call me what you may... but I've just about seen it all.