10-04-2011, 09:51 PM
freestate-
You must be a lawyer, as you try to discredit myself as well as others in nearly every post. I didn't post on here to insult anyone or start a battle with them, and I am certainly not a Hawaiian extremist or someone who is placing a value on the lives or rights of others (not sure how you even derived that one from my earlier posts).
I understand that everyone has their own opinions and people can't always agree with each other, I just wanted to share some insight into the current sheep issue and that the axis deer issue will probably be approached in the same unorganized fashion by our government.
As I stated earlier:
"I feel that there are generally 3 options in taking action towards these issues:
1) Do nothing and let the animals run wild
2) Encourage a balanced hybrid ecosystem between native and non-native animals by reducing animal numbers when needed (this can be achieved through no limit hunting seasons. One man single-handedly eradicated all of the goats off of niihau over the course of 2 years without modern technology, so don't tell me hunting is an ineffective control method)
3) Completely kill off everything non-native, and do nothing, allowing for even worse threats to fill the void"
Of course there are intermediate options between those extremes that I have listed, however I feel that the 2nd would be the best when approaching these types of issues. Again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
It just seems that you have a very strong sense of what is wrong and right for this issue, as well as what is allowed or does/doesn't belong here as you have stated multiple times. I am just wondering what gives you such a high authority? What makes you absolutely right in saying that the axis deer don't belong here? Don't say "because they weren't historically found here" because that is true for so many things found here that are not prosecuted so harshly as the four legged mammals are.
In the end what we say here probably won't matter anyway. The deer will spread, the government will spend millions and most likely fail, and we will be left with 8 foot high fences everywhere.
I really want to believe what KathyH has said when vouching for you but it just hasn't shown yet.
You must be a lawyer, as you try to discredit myself as well as others in nearly every post. I didn't post on here to insult anyone or start a battle with them, and I am certainly not a Hawaiian extremist or someone who is placing a value on the lives or rights of others (not sure how you even derived that one from my earlier posts).
I understand that everyone has their own opinions and people can't always agree with each other, I just wanted to share some insight into the current sheep issue and that the axis deer issue will probably be approached in the same unorganized fashion by our government.
As I stated earlier:
"I feel that there are generally 3 options in taking action towards these issues:
1) Do nothing and let the animals run wild
2) Encourage a balanced hybrid ecosystem between native and non-native animals by reducing animal numbers when needed (this can be achieved through no limit hunting seasons. One man single-handedly eradicated all of the goats off of niihau over the course of 2 years without modern technology, so don't tell me hunting is an ineffective control method)
3) Completely kill off everything non-native, and do nothing, allowing for even worse threats to fill the void"
Of course there are intermediate options between those extremes that I have listed, however I feel that the 2nd would be the best when approaching these types of issues. Again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
It just seems that you have a very strong sense of what is wrong and right for this issue, as well as what is allowed or does/doesn't belong here as you have stated multiple times. I am just wondering what gives you such a high authority? What makes you absolutely right in saying that the axis deer don't belong here? Don't say "because they weren't historically found here" because that is true for so many things found here that are not prosecuted so harshly as the four legged mammals are.
In the end what we say here probably won't matter anyway. The deer will spread, the government will spend millions and most likely fail, and we will be left with 8 foot high fences everywhere.
I really want to believe what KathyH has said when vouching for you but it just hasn't shown yet.