10-05-2011, 05:49 PM
Carey-
I took a look at your links and I couldn't seem to find any maps of the project areas? I never said I am not willing to look at what others have to say, and I do support management efforts such as those that you posted.
I am just trying to point out that there are seeds on mamane trees in areas where sheep are found. Both the pictures of seeds, and the video of the sheep were taken in the same area no matter where it's exact location is within the Mauna Kea forest reserve. I find it hard to believe that the sheep are entirely to blame for the palila decline, and that we shouldn't be trying to kill off every last one from helicopters based on 40 year old research.
This might help narrow it down, exactly which project did you work on when you were in that area? Perhaps we just have different names for the same areas? When you say the Parker fence do you mean on the left hand or right hand side of the summit access road when ascending? Everything on the left hand side is no longer leased by Parker ranch and is owned by DHHL or Hawaiian Homes Land, at least for the past 10 years it has been that way.
I took a look at your links and I couldn't seem to find any maps of the project areas? I never said I am not willing to look at what others have to say, and I do support management efforts such as those that you posted.
I am just trying to point out that there are seeds on mamane trees in areas where sheep are found. Both the pictures of seeds, and the video of the sheep were taken in the same area no matter where it's exact location is within the Mauna Kea forest reserve. I find it hard to believe that the sheep are entirely to blame for the palila decline, and that we shouldn't be trying to kill off every last one from helicopters based on 40 year old research.
This might help narrow it down, exactly which project did you work on when you were in that area? Perhaps we just have different names for the same areas? When you say the Parker fence do you mean on the left hand or right hand side of the summit access road when ascending? Everything on the left hand side is no longer leased by Parker ranch and is owned by DHHL or Hawaiian Homes Land, at least for the past 10 years it has been that way.