Honk if you don't like the Shores speed bumps

[critterlover]

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Originally posted by Greg

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I'm not defending anyone. What I've been saying is that if the "traffic diversion" bumps work at steering nuisance traffic away from streets(which you honkers contend they do), employ them on your street.

Can't afford them? nonsense. They don't cost thousands; they cost in the low hundreds. Much less expensive than the toll that stress has on the human body.

Me: Actually, the costs of the individual hump on a normal sized private road in our subdivision was $1500. If you multiply that by the number of bumps it does run into thousands. Puna Coastal is not a typically sized private road in our subdivision. It WOULD cost thousands.

The other thing I've been saying is if the volunteer BOD isn't representing you well, vote them out.

Me: That may happen. The election is in January.

I serve on my neighborhood board, and we've been accused of the same thing. It's usually by people who show up once a year at the annual meeting to vent. The elected volunteers meet monthly, and honestly do the best they can to meet the needs of a widely diverse population.

Me: Actually, you are partially correct. Typically, in this community it is also 'issue' driven that increases or impacts attendance. In 2007 someone placed flyers in mailboxes saying the Board was going to raise annual fees to $1500 and get rid of the riff raff by doing so. Within 2 days of the flyer going out on a week day at the Board meeting there were 70 plus people in attendance and only for that purpose. The discussion of the annual fee was not even on the agenda. So, issues like community assets and how they are being managed or maintained or anything having to do with money raise the awareness of the community.

One year, some of the opposing personalities got themselves elected to the board. We were thrilled that others were stepping up to help do some of the work. They didn't last long. Too many dang meetings.

I wonder what percentage of property owners in your neighborhood actually participate in electing and managing your business. I'm guessing under 10%. The people who do the work are the ones that show up and do the work. Be irate at the ones who do nothing.

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Me: Again, typically about 10 per cent, correct. But, if it is issue driven then we see more like 15-20 per cent. It depends if it is a big topic in the community whether that vote is reflective primarily of the resident owner or is a collection of both the resident and non resident owner vote. Our subdivision has 2/3 of its ownership as non resident. That demographic is broken down even more when you factor in the Japanese owners who prefer to be outside the politics or issues of a community.

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. While we may disagree on traffic safety issues somewhat I appreciate the opinions of anyone who brings sound rationale to the discussion. But, it is always nice to know when someone who has spent time in the 'directors' shoes shows up to share because they speak from that perspective as well. You are right, volunteers should be supported and given thanks. That just does not seem to be the manner of the beast in this day and age. I would only add to your final thoughts on your comment above, making it to the Board meetings alone is not a way to stay informed either. You have to be at committee meetings, read the Minutes see what has changed in your home owner's association from month to month and ask if such changes are improving or decreasing your investment/property values? The Speed Humps are not on my road. Being installed down there does not directly impact my life. It does indirectly in that precedent is being set to allow individuals who live on a particular privately own community road to alter that road with the alterations then being maintained by the community. It shows a chasm opening up with preference being given to 'residents' on a street verses the 'owners' on a street.

Yet, the same Board is about to approve a change to our CCR's be sent out to the Membership for a vote that requires an owner who intends to build on their lot to notify all lot owners within like a hundred feet of the their lot so those owners can come and review the proposed plans and so they will know that 'noise' is about to happen on the lot. If the owner of a lot within 100 feet is not a resident, why? And before you say it, you are right, that vote would be altogether binding and rightly so. It is up to the Members to plead their case to one another. I am merely showing the inconsistencies in policies which always circle around to fitting an agenda of the few who are actively shaping the future. The Members need to inform themselves.

My apologies. I am veering off topic. Again, you are right. If Members are really concerned they should be at the meeting Thursday night and discuss those concerns! Here is hoping there will be an equable solution.

I am not bound to please thee with my answer. -- William Shakespeare