02-29-2012, 01:46 PM
Carey, and OrchidlandGuy...Mahalo for your response. Apologies for taking this off topic, a tad.
Kapo in myth
"She saved Pele from being raped by Kama-pua'a by sending her flying vagina (kohe lele) as a lure. Kama followed this to Koko Head, Oahu, where it left an imprint. Later Kapo hid it in Ka-lihi Valley."
"When the Hawaiians dream of a woman without a vagina it is Kapo. ... unless a medium possessed by Kapo wears a ti leaf protection she is in danger of having this part of her body torn at."
Kapo is strongly associated with several Pele stories, but a Moloka'i story says that she was part of a family of sorcerers on Moloka'i long before Pele arrived in the islands. Her full name is Kapo-'ula-kina'u, which can mean "the sacred night streaked with dark,"or "red eel woman." Kapo is most famous for being able to detach her vagina, and in one Pele story she used this ability to protect Pele from rape by sending her vagina across the sea so Kamapua'a would chase after it. (*My note: "kohe lele") She is also associated with reproductive energy, herbal medicine, and what today is called channeling. She is said to be able to take many forms at will, but is mostly associated with eels, birds, and the halapepe tree. Because she has more animal associations than other goddesses, she represents the element of animals.
Source: http://www.huna.org/html/hawaiian_goddesses.html
In our family, we have discussed all of the gods (and demi-gods) as we revere them. As most of our (my family) kupuna spoke Hawaiian, we gleaned only what they would allow us to hear, and what they chose to share. I'm over the age of "AARP status", so maybe our (yours and mine) kupuna had different perspectives.
Orchidlandguy, We are of the Pele, Kamohoalii lineage, my grandparents (each half Hawaiians)and greatgrandparents (pure Hawaiians) are who I am speaking of. Your reference to "the sex is pretty vivid" is not my interest, and "Hawaiian talk story" is just that...talk story...Perhaps we can agree storytelling is exactly what it is; none of us truly know, do we?
As folklore and mythology have various versions, no one is right nor wrong. I was merely stating my personal opinion...nothing more, nothing less.
For those who choose to venture into the tubes, be careful, please. So dangerous...Yes, many stories about the various tubes in Puna, too. The burial grounds for some, which as mentioned, should be kapu. Thank you again for allowing me to share my opinion, whether you agree or disagree, it remains the same...with all due respect.
Kapo in myth
"She saved Pele from being raped by Kama-pua'a by sending her flying vagina (kohe lele) as a lure. Kama followed this to Koko Head, Oahu, where it left an imprint. Later Kapo hid it in Ka-lihi Valley."
"When the Hawaiians dream of a woman without a vagina it is Kapo. ... unless a medium possessed by Kapo wears a ti leaf protection she is in danger of having this part of her body torn at."
Kapo is strongly associated with several Pele stories, but a Moloka'i story says that she was part of a family of sorcerers on Moloka'i long before Pele arrived in the islands. Her full name is Kapo-'ula-kina'u, which can mean "the sacred night streaked with dark,"or "red eel woman." Kapo is most famous for being able to detach her vagina, and in one Pele story she used this ability to protect Pele from rape by sending her vagina across the sea so Kamapua'a would chase after it. (*My note: "kohe lele") She is also associated with reproductive energy, herbal medicine, and what today is called channeling. She is said to be able to take many forms at will, but is mostly associated with eels, birds, and the halapepe tree. Because she has more animal associations than other goddesses, she represents the element of animals.
Source: http://www.huna.org/html/hawaiian_goddesses.html
In our family, we have discussed all of the gods (and demi-gods) as we revere them. As most of our (my family) kupuna spoke Hawaiian, we gleaned only what they would allow us to hear, and what they chose to share. I'm over the age of "AARP status", so maybe our (yours and mine) kupuna had different perspectives.
Orchidlandguy, We are of the Pele, Kamohoalii lineage, my grandparents (each half Hawaiians)and greatgrandparents (pure Hawaiians) are who I am speaking of. Your reference to "the sex is pretty vivid" is not my interest, and "Hawaiian talk story" is just that...talk story...Perhaps we can agree storytelling is exactly what it is; none of us truly know, do we?
As folklore and mythology have various versions, no one is right nor wrong. I was merely stating my personal opinion...nothing more, nothing less.
For those who choose to venture into the tubes, be careful, please. So dangerous...Yes, many stories about the various tubes in Puna, too. The burial grounds for some, which as mentioned, should be kapu. Thank you again for allowing me to share my opinion, whether you agree or disagree, it remains the same...with all due respect.