07-05-2012, 08:33 AM
Daniel,
Yes, the county can take over, HOWEVER they have every right to require all landowners in the subdivision to bear the cost....not the county as a whole...the problem with having the county "take over the roads" is that they have a standard for residential roads, and do not 'do' agricultural zoned roads..... IF HPP had been zoned residential in the beginning, the developers would have had to build the roads to county standards at the time AND THE COST WOULD HAVE BEEN PASSED ON to all of the lot buyers, and eventually to everyone that lives NOW in HPP (ie, a HPP house or lot would have cost more to buy).. This is the main reason WHY land prices are higher in residential zoned areas than the Ag zoning....
Hawaiian Shore (or rec, ...or beaches...or...) found out when they wanted the county to take over their water, that even IF the county is willing, EACH CURRENT landowner is responsible to upgrade their frontage water line... this is a very standard practice for rural areas in the mainland & here...
Every rural house I have lived in (mainland) until this one (Keaau residential zoned) had an issue with meeting required upgrades.... 3 with state required sewage handling... 1 with county water line & 1 with school district required sidewalks... each of those homes had HUGE improvement costs that were borne over time to upgrade to state, school district or county standards....cost paid by each of the home owners in the rural area, not by the state, or the county or the school district (the last was sewer lines at over $1500 per frontage foot PLUS $500 property connect per foot PLUS $10,000 connection fee....ALL REQUIRED - could not legally sell the property without the upgrade unless we put in a tertiary septic system).
Yes, the county can take over, HOWEVER they have every right to require all landowners in the subdivision to bear the cost....not the county as a whole...the problem with having the county "take over the roads" is that they have a standard for residential roads, and do not 'do' agricultural zoned roads..... IF HPP had been zoned residential in the beginning, the developers would have had to build the roads to county standards at the time AND THE COST WOULD HAVE BEEN PASSED ON to all of the lot buyers, and eventually to everyone that lives NOW in HPP (ie, a HPP house or lot would have cost more to buy).. This is the main reason WHY land prices are higher in residential zoned areas than the Ag zoning....
Hawaiian Shore (or rec, ...or beaches...or...) found out when they wanted the county to take over their water, that even IF the county is willing, EACH CURRENT landowner is responsible to upgrade their frontage water line... this is a very standard practice for rural areas in the mainland & here...
Every rural house I have lived in (mainland) until this one (Keaau residential zoned) had an issue with meeting required upgrades.... 3 with state required sewage handling... 1 with county water line & 1 with school district required sidewalks... each of those homes had HUGE improvement costs that were borne over time to upgrade to state, school district or county standards....cost paid by each of the home owners in the rural area, not by the state, or the county or the school district (the last was sewer lines at over $1500 per frontage foot PLUS $500 property connect per foot PLUS $10,000 connection fee....ALL REQUIRED - could not legally sell the property without the upgrade unless we put in a tertiary septic system).