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Helicopter ID
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I don't currently live on island but all this copter talk had me thinking.
I know in my current area there is plenty of open vacant land but it's
not used for grows much. Most all of the grows are indoor. They are fairly
common and pretty sofisticated. I was under the impressi0on that all "quality"
grows were indoor so the females don't get fertilized. Bottom line, copter
overflights for grow detection are few and unnoticable.

As for Hawaii County, in the time I spent there, I wasn't annoyed by copter
overflights, and I spent most of my time in Puna. They weren't even common
enough for me to have remembered them. Maybe I was just lucky.

Trying to make sense of all of the copter posts I've read, I've made some tentative alternative assumptions about possible explanations:

1 Green Harvest

A. The overflights aren't really that frequent or annoying and their benefit
of erradicating illegal grows far outweighs the small annoyance caused by the
overflights. Those leading the outcry against them are mostly growers,
wannabe growers and pot smoking sympathizers with an underlying, unsavory
vested interest in stopping them.

or

B. The overflights are truly annoying and oppressive, but the PD, the DEA and
the County government in general, consider the Puna area (and possibly others)
to be primarily populated by illegal growers, wanabe growers, potheads,
sympathizers or other undesirables for which the afore-mentioned government
organizations have little respect or use. Officials don't consider residents of
the area will ever have enough political clout to be of much concern.
Therefore, as they consider the residents of the area to be primairily
composed of undesirables, many engaged in illegal activity, they have little
concern the overflights are annoying the populace, and may in fact consider
annoying and harrassing the populace to be a legitimate activity akin to
parking a patrol car in front of a drug dealer's house.

2 Commercial Flights

A. The commercial overflights aren't really that annoying and what little
annoyance they cause is far surpassed by the economic benefit they bring
to the County as a whole.

or

B. The commercial overflights are truly annoying and oppressive to the
populace but unfortunately, federal regulations being what they are, there
is little to nothing that can be done.

or

C. The commercial overflights are truly annoying and opressive to the
populace most subjected to them, but that populace has little political
clout. The majority of the residents and leaders of the county see the
flights as a significant economic boost to the county, and as the flights
don't seriously annoy them personally they care little about the suffering
of those that are most subjected to them.

or

D. The commercial overflights are truly annoying and opressive to the
populace most subjected to them (Puna), but that populace has little political
clout and the majority of the populace, including the leaders of the County,
consider the Puna area (and possibly others) to be primarily populated by
illegal growers, wanabe growers, potheads, sympathizers or other undesirables
for which the afore-mentioned majority populace and government, have little
respect or use. Therefore, they don't care how annoyed it makes that undesirable
populace with little clout.

Well, that was my two bits. I obviously haven't setteled on an opinion as of yet. I guess I will after I move there, soon I hope.

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
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Helicopter ID - by Radiopeg - 03-22-2012, 08:25 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Maleko - 03-22-2012, 08:28 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by missydog1 - 03-22-2012, 09:03 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by dwedeking - 03-22-2012, 10:08 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Dave Smith - 03-22-2012, 10:18 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Bullwinkle - 03-22-2012, 10:20 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by jerry - 03-22-2012, 10:22 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Dave Smith - 03-22-2012, 10:32 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Dave Smith - 03-22-2012, 10:39 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by jerry - 03-22-2012, 10:57 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by missydog1 - 03-22-2012, 11:36 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Obie - 03-22-2012, 12:46 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by dwedeking - 03-22-2012, 12:52 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Carey - 03-22-2012, 02:07 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by kjlpahoa - 03-22-2012, 02:54 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by dwedeking - 03-22-2012, 03:30 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Obie - 03-22-2012, 03:35 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Wao nahele kane - 03-22-2012, 03:45 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Bullwinkle - 03-22-2012, 04:19 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by baygardener - 03-22-2012, 07:37 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by ericlp - 03-22-2012, 09:26 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by loffelkopffl - 03-23-2012, 02:13 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Bullwinkle - 03-23-2012, 04:08 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Bullwinkle - 03-23-2012, 07:06 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Rene Siracusa - 03-23-2012, 07:08 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Kapohocat - 03-23-2012, 07:28 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by janeadams - 03-23-2012, 08:12 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by missydog1 - 03-23-2012, 08:18 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Bullwinkle - 03-23-2012, 02:27 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by missydog1 - 03-23-2012, 02:38 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Bullwinkle - 03-23-2012, 03:16 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Bullwinkle - 03-23-2012, 03:50 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by missydog1 - 03-23-2012, 04:06 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by seekir - 03-23-2012, 06:28 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Bullwinkle - 03-25-2012, 05:15 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by seekir - 03-27-2012, 05:10 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by opihikao - 03-28-2012, 04:15 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Chuysmom - 03-29-2012, 03:11 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by YurtGirl - 07-22-2012, 07:28 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Kapohocat - 07-23-2012, 02:46 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by YurtGirl - 07-23-2012, 09:09 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by LeeE - 07-23-2012, 04:55 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by maukamakai - 07-23-2012, 05:38 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by ckaupp - 08-01-2012, 04:27 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Lin W - 08-01-2012, 05:18 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by DoryGray - 08-01-2012, 05:44 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by ckaupp - 08-01-2012, 05:46 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Carey - 08-01-2012, 06:46 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by KeaauRich - 08-01-2012, 06:47 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Sue Nomie - 08-01-2012, 07:05 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Kahunascott - 08-01-2012, 07:59 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by PaulW - 08-01-2012, 08:06 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Carey - 08-01-2012, 09:02 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by rainshadow - 08-01-2012, 09:08 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by lquade - 08-01-2012, 09:33 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Carey - 08-01-2012, 10:07 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by YurtGirl - 08-01-2012, 10:44 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by YurtGirl - 08-01-2012, 10:51 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by YurtGirl - 08-01-2012, 10:58 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Andy - 08-01-2012, 11:16 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Wao nahele wahine - 08-01-2012, 11:16 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by rainshadow - 08-01-2012, 12:31 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Carey - 08-01-2012, 12:41 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by YurtGirl - 08-02-2012, 06:10 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by rainshadow - 08-02-2012, 06:27 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by rainshadow - 08-02-2012, 06:36 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by macuu222 - 08-02-2012, 07:57 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Carey - 08-02-2012, 08:24 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by bystander - 08-02-2012, 09:43 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Carey - 08-02-2012, 12:43 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by rainshadow - 08-02-2012, 02:01 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by islandlvng - 08-02-2012, 03:33 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by dmbwest - 08-02-2012, 07:29 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by rainshadow - 08-03-2012, 05:34 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Carey - 08-03-2012, 06:13 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Bullwinkle - 08-03-2012, 06:37 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by rainshadow - 08-03-2012, 06:50 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Carey - 08-03-2012, 07:08 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by oink - 08-03-2012, 08:25 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by rainshadow - 08-03-2012, 10:24 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by pahoated - 08-03-2012, 11:05 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Carey - 08-03-2012, 12:03 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by oink - 08-03-2012, 01:31 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Greg - 08-03-2012, 06:04 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by TomK - 08-03-2012, 08:53 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by oink - 08-03-2012, 11:19 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by LeeE - 08-04-2012, 03:38 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by LeeE - 08-04-2012, 03:43 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by Greg - 08-04-2012, 04:40 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by islandlvng - 08-10-2012, 08:39 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by oink - 08-11-2012, 12:27 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by ckaupp - 08-13-2012, 12:55 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by rainshadow - 08-14-2012, 06:01 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by pslamont - 08-14-2012, 06:11 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by dwedeking - 08-14-2012, 06:26 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by dwedeking - 08-14-2012, 06:48 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by LeeE - 08-14-2012, 10:02 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by dwedeking - 08-15-2012, 02:13 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by LeeE - 08-15-2012, 04:39 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by pahoated - 08-16-2012, 08:21 AM
RE: Helicopter ID - by seekir - 08-17-2012, 05:11 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by ckaupp - 08-16-2013, 01:11 PM
RE: Helicopter ID - by dragon2k - 08-16-2013, 02:20 PM

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