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Liquid air power
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Peugeot is planning a hybrid compressed air to be in production by 2016, apparently the hybrid being the compressor carried on-board:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo...r-yes-air/
Behold a New Hybrid Car Powered by Air...Yes AIR!

An India car company is supposed to go into production this year with a completely compressed air car, with a range over 100 miles and 60mph. It is how they are using the compressed air, as a heat process, rather than thinking about it as just a pressure release process.
http://www.gaadi.com/Tata-MiniCat
Tata MiniCat

It is about the storage tanks and there are massive strides being made in materials science these days. To use compressed air as a pressure release process conventionally, it would take a 45,000 psi tank to get this kind of range and performance, far beyond even this technology, though. Using it to create a heat reactor, Tata is saying they can use a 4,500 psi tank with their heat reactor. It is conceivable that solar panels charge batteries that run air compressors that fill the tank.

The American car requirement is a 500 mile range before refill and 100mph. Only fuel cells are approaching this and it has taken several years to achieve 10,000 psi, which would be about a 350 mile range before refill and 80mph. 15,000 psi will be reached this year. Volkswagen has just made a deal with Ballard fuel cells to have production fuel cell cars in 2016. With fuel cells, water is disassembled into oxygen and hydrogen, the oxygen being released into the atmosphere. The hydrogen is compressed and stored in a pressure tank. Honda is evaluating solar powered hydrogen fuel stations:
http://world.honda.com/FuelCell/SolarHydrogenStation/

This comes at a cost of using clean water and the electrical components of the station but clean water is returned to the environment by the "exhaust" of the fuel cell. The prohibition has been the cost of the fuel cell. Honda's first fuel cell cars leased to California a couple years ago cost $2 million each. Again, rapid advances in material science could see production cost levels in a few more years.

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Liquid air power - by Rob Tucker - 03-17-2013, 12:20 PM
RE: Liquid air power - by Carey - 03-17-2013, 05:35 PM
RE: Liquid air power - by pahoated - 03-18-2013, 02:28 AM
RE: Liquid air power - by Norm - 03-18-2013, 08:04 AM
RE: Liquid air power - by David M - 03-18-2013, 08:56 AM
RE: Liquid air power - by Rob Tucker - 03-18-2013, 08:56 AM
RE: Liquid air power - by MarkP - 03-18-2013, 09:05 AM
RE: Liquid air power - by ericlp - 03-18-2013, 09:47 AM
RE: Liquid air power - by pahoated - 03-19-2013, 04:33 AM

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